The Jonas Brothers on Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hello everyone. Welcome to another

episode of Good Hang. Very excited about

today. We're talking to the Jonas

Brothers, Kevin, Joe, Nick. Um, one of

them shares my birthday. You're going to

have to figure out which one. And we

talk about so many fun things. We talk

about their new album, Greetings from

Your Hometown. We talk about um BG, the

BeeGees, and how much we love the

BeeGees. Uh we talk uh about Broadway

and We Sing from Lay Miz. It's a good

one, guys. Buckle up. So, we always

start these episodes by asking someone

who knows our guest to give me a

question to ask them. We find out a

little bit more and we get the dirt. And

we are very excited to have our guest

today, Jack McBrer, Kenneth from 30

Rock, uh, great improviser and, um,

Chicago comedian uh, who I spent many

years improvising with. Joining me,

Jack. Hello. How are you, my darling?

Woohoo!

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What do you say?

>> Jack.

>> Jack.

>> MC Breach. MC Breer.

>> Mc Brazzle.

>> Oh, how are you?

>> Oh, you know, one of the best things

about doing these things is that I just

get to say hi to people and I miss you.

It's good to see you.

>> Oh, it's been a minute. I guess the last

time I would have seen you was February

14th at Radio City Music Hall for the

SNL music thing.

>> Oh, that's right. For the big 50th

celebration.

>> How are you? I can't believe I'm doing

this. What is this, by the way?

>> Oh, I don't know. Who knows? It's a um

it's a it's a pyramid scheme. No, this

is a podcast called Good Hang and I'm

having the Jonas Brothers on tomorrow.

>> I'm familiar. I'm familiar. When when

were you when did you become first

familiar with the Jonas Brothers as an

entity rather than actual people?

>> Good question. As an entity, I mean, it

would have been, I guess, early in their

career because we knew like who all the

Disney kids were, right?

>> Um, and they were some of the, you know,

OG Disney kids. Uh,

but I mean, because I am older than

everyone. Uh,

>> not me, sir. Not me.

>> We're a close a close second.

>> Still got you. Still got you. But uh I

didn't necessarily know their work. I

knew they were very very popular and I

knew that they did movies uh together as

brothers and you know it was interesting

to watch that evolution because I mean I

could not even imagine working with any

member of my family and yet here they

were with this whole empire.

>> I know it's really really fun to think

about uh the questions I want to ask

them because it is they are working with

their family. It is not f a family

business is not easy.

>> It's a very interesting dynamic to

watch, but also they are all just

genuine human beings, just wonderful

young men. And it really has been a

pleasure to get to know all of them

together and each of them individually.

>> So, how did you meet them? How did you

become friends?

>> February 14th, another Valentine's Day,

2009, uh Alec Baldwin was hosting

Saturday Night Love with your musical

guest, the Jonas Brothers. Um, and Alec

very graciously uh had an opportunity

for me to come up during the monologue

and do a fun little bit with them. Uh,

and so because I'm there for the, you

know, days leading up to it for those

rehearsals, I got to hang out with the

Jonas Brothers. So delightful. They were

just big fans of comedy and they're just

like, again, good solid folk. Uh, so

that is when I met them and uh, over the

years our paths crisscrossed through

different things. I was staying at the

same hotel in Toronto as Nick Jonas uh

several years later and um they all came

to Saturday Night Live again when Demi

Lovato uh was a musical guest. So, a lot

of just crisscrossing through the years.

Uh and then more recently, Nick Jonas

got back into acting or you know

focusing on acting and was one on a show

called Screen Queens with my neighbor

Glenn Powell.

>> Right. Movie nights and all that kind of

stuff. You are so connected, Jack.

>> I might be too connected.

It's It's weird. It's suspicious.

>> It's fantastic. I mean,

>> it's the best. I love you are the best.

>> Okay, so Glenn and you and Nick and

others have game nights, I'm hoping.

>> Correct. Game nights, movie night. Oh.

Oh. Oh, you're gonna love this. Nick

Jonas's favorite movie is They Came

Together.

>> And you know why I know this? During CO

>> During CO, I went to your driveway.

>> There was only a few people I saw during

CO and one of them was Jack McBrer who

came to my driveway masked and gloved

because that was back when we were

really

um we were um taking all precautions to

sign a they came together poster, a film

that me and Paul Rudd did for Nick

Jonas. Nick Jonas, whose birthday is

>> the same birthday as mine, September

16th. And the reason why Jack knows that

is because Jack is

>> a savant.

>> Is a savant. One of his love languages

is you remember and you take deep you

you you care deeply about reaching out

to people on their birthday. And

everyone gets a Jack Mcreer happy

birthday text and it means a lot to a

lot of us.

>> It's so fun. And you know, I learned a

lot. Some people are like, "Oh, you only

texted me this year. I like it when you

call me so I can keep the message." I

was like, "Oh my gosh." So, yeah, I

tried to shake it up. Today, I only have

one. It's Lesie Powell, Glenn Powell's

sister. Oh, I do whole families. I know.

It's like, let's see. Kevin Jonas is

November 5th.

>> Wow.

>> Joe Jonas, August 15th, and Nick Jonas,

September 16th. And so, as Nick and Joe

and Kevin's friend, um, what question do

you think I should ask them today?

>> What is their conflict resolution

situation like? I think I wonder like I

think that their lives are so unique

because they've been famous so much

longer than they've been not famous.

>> What does that feel like? what you're

talking about is so interesting because

the question there is like you've had

you've had to deal with fame for a

really long time. What's your

relationship to it now?

>> And I wonder too like if each of the

individual brothers deals with it

differently. For example, you know,

Kevin and his family are off on the East

Coast and and you know there's

co-parenting going on with there's just

a lot of different versions of what's

happening and uh but they're all just

solid dudes and it is always always a

joy to see each and every one of them.

I'm such a fan of them as people. Also,

they're good at music.

>> They're really good at music.

>> Ugly. They're very ugly.

[Laughter]

>> All right, Jack, I love you. Thank you

so much for giving us the time and the

question.

>> Oh my gosh. Well, I hope it was helpful

and yes, have so much fun with them. I'm

so happy to see you.

>> You, too, buddy.

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>> I am so psyched you guys are here. Thank

you so much for coming.

>> And also you have I we just found out

that Nick has two shows tonight. You

have

>> two shows.

>> It's a two show day which I know from

Broadway

>> is um is means you have a matinea and

>> mata an evening show.

>> And so thank you for not um for like

talking because I know a lot of people

have to save their voice for a two show

day.

>> Well, a lot of people are weak.

>> That's for sure.

That's for sure.

>> You got to hit the vocals.

>> Seriously, you guys are pros. I mean,

and you have to sing all the time

>> and good

>> and sing good.

>> Yeah, you can sing, but you got to

singing is one thing. Singing good is

another, you know.

>> And do you worry about losing your

voice?

>> Yeah, I was paranoid about losing my

voice or getting sick today or just in

general.

>> Just this whole run.

>> Yeah, it's kind of like a living stress

dream. I mean, have have you had to

cancel shows because of

>> Nick? Yeah. Yeah.

>> Um, we we've canceled shows. There was a

long run

>> because of me. There was the first show

we ever cancelled

>> Yeah.

>> was in was in Zurich. Nick didn't like

Zurich, so we were like, we had to

cancel the show.

>> He was like, I'm out of here.

>> But it was nice cuz we did have a great

day off in Zurich.

>> It was fantast.

And I know you love your fans and you

want to provide, but

>> there's nothing you can do about it.

>> If there's nothing you can do about it,

if your plans are canceled, there's no

better way. Especially if you're not the

one canceling them.

>> But um you were in Lay Miz as a little

kid.

>> One day more,

another day, another destiny.

[Music]

>> You got it.

>> That show is I saw it so many times when

Nick like it was actually one of my like

>> Oh, when when your brother was in

>> Yeah. When he was in it. And so it was

one of those things where I felt so

empowered though and so like cool kid

because my class in that year that he

was in the show went there on a field

trip like that's their field trip every

year was to go see lay mist

>> my history class I guess and

>> he was in the show that day. I was like

yes my brother

>> was like I can get you backstage if you

want.

>> It kind of went No, I got to like leave

like stay there afterwards and like they

all went back to school and I was like

cool hanging out. You know

>> you were like I'm not going back to

school today.

>> That was so cool.

Thanks, Nick. Finally made it.

>> I wanted to say eldest child to eldest

child.

>> Yeah.

>> Um, first of all, not a big deal, but

you arrived first today.

>> I always arrive first.

>> Of course you do because I mean,

congratulations having an older brother

who's keeping it together. But the

>> definitely not keeping it together, but

I'll be on time.

>> But the eldest child and you guys are

basically you kind of you two share the

middle section cuz you were the baby

until,

>> right? Oh, yeah. We're Yeah, we share

the the middle child.

>> For those that don't know, we have a a

younger brother named Franklin Jonas.

>> Franklin was born like 8 years later

than you.

>> Eight years. Yeah. After me. Um he's

incredible. Yeah.

>> He's But he's you know,

>> he took away I was originally the middle

child and then now he [ __ ] it all up.

>> Yeah. He took everything from both of

you. I mean, you're not the baby, you're

not the middle.

>> Yeah. I don't know what I don't matter.

I don't

>> Yeah. You're the second of four. There's

literally no name for it or anything.

>> How many siblings do you have? I have

just a younger brother. That's it. So,

I'm the eldest eldest sister. You guys

don't have any sisters to like keep you

like you keep your brains functioning

basically.

>> Yeah, it's a lot.

>> It is. It's

>> It's a lot of boys.

>> It's a lot of boys,

>> but now we all have girls, so it's you

know.

>> That's right.

>> So, it's going to be a whole thing.

>> God is fair. God is fair. Um, okay. We

are going to talk about your new record,

but I want to talk about New Jersey.

>> Cool.

>> So many good singers from New Jersey. So

many good bands from New Jersey

>> and people

>> and people.

>> Some people.

>> Tell us about your hometown.

>> Wow. We grew up in a place called Woff,

New Jersey.

>> Uh we I still live in New Jersey because

I never really got out.

>> Yeah.

>> It they sucked me back in,

>> of course.

>> Um but no, growing up in Jersey was the

first time like we we did grow up in uh

Dallas as well and North Carolina and

Arizona. We like moved around a bunch

with our family, but New Jersey is where

we like was home like growing up. And

when I think it's the first place I

remember feeling like riding bikes,

seeing houses, like kids playing in, you

know, the yards and like it was like

perfect.

>> The first time you saw houses

>> Oh, we lived in Yeah.

>> Sorry. It was just a really funny way to

put that.

>> Like I meant to see like White Pick a

fence house like that. Like the American

dream. Yes. I I've never seen a home

before.

>> First time I ride a bike to house,

>> but yeah.

>> You're supposed to do the show after

12:00 and like, you know.

>> Yeah. But but you're you're safe.

like your hometown and it's the name of

your new record like it's it means

something to you. It it's like you know

that like they saying like you can't

take the you can't take the white coff

New Jersey out of the boy like like you

you you it's like you're like a homing

pigeon or something like you do end up

going back to some version of it or or

deeply rejecting it. It's like one or

the other. That was one of the things

that we we talked a lot about because

we, you know, we're also gearing up for

for the tour which represents, you know,

our 20th anniversary of being a band.

>> I know. Congratulations.

>> Thank you. It's it's been a wild ride.

But one of the things in in just talking

through creative that we initially sort

of buted heads on and then we found the

sort of solve for it emotionally is like

not everyone has a great relationship

with their hometown to your point and

not everyone has a great relationship

with their family. But one of the things

that we're, I think, most grateful for

is that our fans uh have chosen this

family, but meaning our family, but also

each other. And you see it at the shows

and and they really band together to say

that even if your relationship with your

hometown is complicated, even if your

relationship with your family is

complicated, you're safe here in the

same way that we felt safe,

>> you know, in our hometown growing up and

with each other. Um,

>> and it's uh it's a pretty incredible

thing to look out and see now that sort

of multigener generational effect of the

fan base

>> um and how it stems, you know, to some

really deep touch points for us both

with our our roots in Jersey and our

musical roots. Speaking of some of those

those legends from Jersey,

>> okay, I want to talk about the tour

because I'm obsessed with how people act

on tour. You you have all toured at

various stages of your life and let me

just say congratulations on 20 years. I

think when people think of you because

they met you when you were young, they

still think of you. And by the way, this

is going to be great as you get older.

People will always think you're younger

than you are,

>> but they knew you and met you when you

were younger. And I don't think they

realize the amount of time you've been

performing. 20 years together is a huge

milestone and it's awesome. And you've

now, I'm sure, gone out and toured in a

million different ways. And tours

probably feel different every time you

go out. Now that you're this age, what

does touring look like to you? What do

you do not do? Saving your voice, going

out at night, what does it look like?

>> Wow. I think it changed a lot for us um

over the last like five years. Our our

most recent tour we went on, it was

celebrating five albums.

>> Yeah.

>> So, we were trying to play five albums

in one show. It's about a two and a half

hour show.

>> Wow. We did a lot of medley so we were

able to make the time but it was a lot

on our voice and just physically

exhausting and we played I thinkund and

some 100 how many I don't even know it

was a lot of shows.

>> Yeah,

>> it's really impressive.

>> Incredible.

>> And thank you.

>> It is

and we had you start to realize you're

not in your early 20s anymore. You have

to really take care of your body. And so

>> for me I was like not drinking before

shows and

>> um

>> and then trying to you know get at least

six seven hours of sleep. We al also all

have kids so we have to be up in the we

want to be up in the morning

>> six or seven it's not enough

>> not enough

>> and then after the show it takes time to

to kind of like wind down and and

decompress the high is so

>> Nick takes way longer like I'll be I

could be asleep within an hour like on

the plane there's so many photos of Joe

Hazard of just you know passed out. It's

just one of those things. I'll watch a

movie,

>> but Nick will be up till 4:00 or 5 in

the morning just because the comedown.

>> Yeah.

>> Just, you know, my mind's like racing

after the show about

>> how they could be better and and

>> and

>> you gather everyone together and you

give them notes.

>> Yeah.

>> The note Yeah, the notes take a while to

>> The thing I think the thing that's the

most different for me is

>> hours

>> hours of notes. I think the thing that's

most different for me is like I've spent

a little bit more time uh like after

this last tour I noticed it even more

so. But like working with someone um

like a therapist to help me understand

that coming down from it all like after

a big project like that like

>> being in the midst of the touring I was

so in it for so long

>> that I feel like coming the the come off

it can be so dramatic as well. It's

almost like everyone says like talk

about like the show blues like after you

do a project like the next morning you

wake up and there's like you're like

kind of depressed. Well, it can be the

same for me at least with my personal

story uh about like after a tour.

>> Yes, of course. I

>> reaclimating can be difficult.

>> It's so interesting you say that because

you know I wanted to ask you like that

your relationship to fame. you've been

famous for a long time. And it's that's

a microcosm of the bigger idea of like

sometimes success or things that are

successful or just like big giant

serotonin bursts and like cortisol dumps

and all that stuff like it is it is a

roller coaster to come down from.

>> Well, I think redefining for myself is

redefining what a goal is and redefining

what a win is, right? Because things

change constantly uh about like what

success means.

>> Yeah. Yeah,

>> I think now for me success means like

enjoying my time doing what I love

>> and no matter what the outcome is, as

long as we're doing it together, long as

my family is with us and enjoying that

and they're happy and that's a win for

me.

>> Yeah.

>> Obviously, you do want milestones to

happen, but like that's the bigger

picture.

>> Yeah. you know, it's easier to say some

of these things and and

>> truly believe that you have a a grip and

a perspective on how to maintain some

sanity

>> and then functionally you get into the

weeds of of life in the public eye and

um traversing all that is complicated

about it.

>> I think it's just about, you know,

trying trying your best to uh and it's

going to sound so cliche before I say

it, but trying your best to to be a kind

and thoughtful person while you're

dealing with your own [ __ ] That's

absolutely right. And I feel the older

you get, the more you realize, the less

you know.

>> Like you were like, "Oh, I actually am

less certain."

>> And there's some freedom in that, too.

>> Totally. But you're fine with fame, Joe.

>> I'm actually really good at it.

>> Yeah.

>> I don't really understand what they're

talking about, to be honest. You get it.

>> I don't have no problems. Like literally

like every time.

>> I know. So

>> like I'm always like feeling totally

fine.

>> We can hear you guys.

>> Oh, I'm sorry. Um I

>> don't want to sound like a broken

record, but I actually told them to say

all that.

And I will add that I the why kind of

what you mentioned earlier like that was

>> also on that tour that we were on. I

think more so like after a while you're

like 60 shows in you're like wow this

mountain that we're going to climb every

night and I'm tired or you're going

through something really crazy in your

personal life

>> and you feel like okay well how do I

navigate this and also try to do a great

performance. I mean, as a person that

goes to very few concerts because

they're too late, they're too long.

>> I'm with you. Honestly, I don't really

like

>> I have a hard I cancel all my concert.

What do you think is too what do you

think is like the sweet spot?

>> Okay. Well, now look, there are

exceptions. Like, of course, Taylor

incredible. Her her show of it's

incredible. Bruce Springsteen,

incredible. Like these shows that should

be three hours and are incredible

productions. But unless you're going

that big, I can't do a two and a half

hour concert. I'm so I'm so glad I I'm

I'm excited because it's just too long.

>> Yeah.

>> And I want to hear the hits. I I don't

like I don't know why someone is mad at

me when they when they don't play the

hits. I'm like, why are you mad at me?

What What happened? Why are we hearing

Why are we hearing the songs that we

love?

>> Like, but it is

>> You got me out of my house. I got in my

car or I was driven there

>> and all the standing. I mean, if if

everyone could

>> just take a seat.

>> Think of how great it would be if

everyone took a seat.

>> Literally, I will say yes, I understand

from the audience perspective, but I

think from a momentum perspective for

us, I feel like that would be a shift.

That would be the older you get like I

get it.

>> But what if everyone agreed? Everyone

was like, "Hey, we're going to have a

really good time and we're not. We're

we'll see at the end. No pressure."

>> You get it when you go see like I saw

Fleewood Mac and it was like the first

three songs like ah and then the

audience just collectively was like

Incredible.

>> And they're like, they got it. No

questions. Like, guys, get up. It's

Fleetwood Mac.

>> No. They're like, guys, I love Mac and I

got to I got to last.

>> I got to last. I got to last. Like, I

can't stand up for an hour. Like, what

am I

>> for an hour? Yeah. Are we waiting in

line for something?

>> Yeah. Am I at, you know, my

granddaughter's wedding? What's

happening?

>> They have those things that like

wearable seats now. You can just like

flip it back and just kind of stand and

sit.

>> Are you serious?

>> Yeah. a thing.

>> Wearable seats.

>> Wearable seats.

>> Yeah, you stand.

>> There's a whole bit of this. I just

watched it. Silicon Valley did like a

whole bit about one of the guys had a

wearable seat and he was like hated him

because of it.

>> I would totally love that.

>> It's like a backpack that

>> it's like literally like it looks like

and he just like kind of flips his butt

back and like sits.

>> Honestly, if I can get a seat, it

changes my whole night. If I was at a

show and I and I had a seat, I'd stay

another two hours.

>> You know what's going in your mail

tomorrow? wearable seat.

No, but I mean but but I I do like as a

as a person who goes and watches

performances and you know it's funny

comedy and music have an interesting um

like we're kind of cousins like I know

you guys are big fans of comedy and

you're very funny and you've come and

done SNL and you have a great sense of

humor about yourself and you love funny

people and I feel like that happens a

lot with comedians. Like comedians are

like man I wish I was a musician. Um,

like I love the the the the feeling like

there's just like they they understand

each other sometimes.

>> Yeah.

>> What is your relationship to comedy? How

important was it to you and like you

know?

>> Well, early in our career, we had no

traction going on the music yet. This

was like 2005 and six and YouTube was

kind of new and it was a new and

exciting way for us to connect with our

fans. And um we we were teenagers with a

a flip camera, whatever that was. and we

were just making funny videos and and we

always like, you know, loved and admired

um great comedic actors and and

>> I think probably just had a ton of

confidence

>> and obviously no like comedic chops. Um,

but it was enough

>> specifically this side of the table, no

comedic chops, but we um,

>> damn, let's all look to camera.

>> We used that as a way to promote our

music. And then eventually when things

started to happen with Disney and

everything else,

>> you know, became a lot more structured

and there was like writers and all this

kind of stuff and it was like a whole

new world for us. But what was I think

really empowering and exciting was that

um they listened to some of our ideas

and and allowed us to infuse some of our

own voices into the characters that we

played and

>> the various projects we did. And then so

when we yeah we got the call to do SNL

the first time we did it was Valentine's

Day 2009.

>> Um is wild. Um and

>> the host was Alec Baldwin.

>> Alec Baldwin was the host.

>> He played the the the fifth Jonas

Brother in the skit. Was very funny.

Yeah. Yes, I did. Um,

>> and you how old were you when you when

you did did that in 2009?

>> I was 17.

>> Dang.

>> 22. Wow.

>> Um, and it was Yeah, it was like our one

of our biggest dreams come true and

there was this really um wild uh digital

short that we did with with Andy and the

guys.

>> I was just listening to I listen to

Lonely Island and Seth Myers podcast.

They were talking about it today.

>> Oh, really?

>> Oh, really? Cool.

>> They were talking about it today on the

way over here. They were talking about

how fun it was to do it with you, how

you guys and it came out of the like

stupid songs you guys would make with

each other.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> We had a idea of doing some 80s hair

metal band called Property of the Queen.

>> Great name, by the way.

>> Great name.

>> Not incredible looks in that in that uh

in that

>> Oh, yeah. And then they they built this

whole story out of it. So fun.

>> Forte was playing guitar with you. Yeah.

And there's some

>> And I think Bill was like playing a

wizard.

>> Wizard. The wizard.

>> The whole concept, which was the the

brilliant unlock of it. All we had was

like a couple of really dumb songs that

we wanted to do something with and this

idea to do like an 80siz.

>> And so Andy was like, "So what if what

if you guys are like, you know, time

travels or vampires or something?" And

Bill is this wizard who's granted you

this wish to to come back in time to to

play SNL on Valentine's Day 209. And I

catch you.

>> Yeah. And he catches us in our our our

con.

>> It was very funny.

>> Yeah. It's so good.

>> What was that? What was the the love

song? Our love is like the Great Wall of

China. Is that it?

>> Our love is from out of space.

>> Wall of China. You can see it from out

of space.

>> So good. So dumb.

>> Do you guys make up dumb songs all the

time? And when you're Do you sing other

people's music?

>> Yes.

>> What do you sing with each other? Like

>> I have this this theory.

>> Yeah. It's It's not a controversial one,

but it's it's a litmus test for me of if

a song could be a hit.

>> Okay.

>> And it's if you can spoof it.

>> Oh, yeah.

>> Oh,

>> you can make it anything else.

>> We have that.

>> And it works.

>> We have one of those. We have a song on

our new album called I Can't Lose. I

can't lose, but I keep saying I can't

poop.

>> I think it should be a Pepto-Bismo ad or

something.

>> Well,

but the next line is when I'm with you.

So, that we'll have to figure that one

out. Maybe it's like a date. You're on a

date and it's awkward.

>> They're anxious.

>> I can't do it when I'm with you. Oh,

they're on vacation.

>> That's so funny. But you're right.

Specific actually on vacation.

>> Well, that's the thing that people deal

with.

>> What? How do you flip around songs that

are out right now? Like I know what

you're talking about. Like when you when

you get into a song and then you start

singing it

>> a different way.

>> I mean, you're kind of weird All for a

better for sure.

>> Yeah. And I think that that's a sign he

he did pick hit songs. Do you sing har

do you sing har do do you harmonize to

other people's songs when you're

together like

>> I just want to har you just want to sing

with us don't you

>> yes because I feel okay

>> I am I'm an okay singer I'm fine I'm not

good but I'm a pretty good harmonizer

>> but I feel like I want to challenge

myself to see if I can get in and create

a a fourth part

>> okay love it

>> what should we sing

>> how can you stop the rain from falling

down.

>> That was it.

>> Yeah, perfect.

>> Thanks. It's like a middle.

>> It's a middle part. Thanks for

entertaining me. I love that song.

>> It's a great song.

>> Great. In fact, your uh uh uh Sorry,

what's the name of the single again? Is

it up here, Jenna?

>> No Time to Talk.

>> No Time to Talk.

>> It's in my email. Okay, I want to play.

>> Oh, you have it in your email.

>> Yes. It's so good. And it has a

>> It's an interpolation.

That's

>> that's what they would do.

>> So

>> crazy story with this song. Started

writing it like seven years ago.

>> Oh my god.

>> Really?

>> And just assume that it would never get

cleared by

>> right

>> BGS and by Barry Gibb

>> and finally

top of this year I pulled it back out of

the you know vault

>> vault and I was like this we need to

finish this song.

>> Yeah.

>> This one's special. And so I've teamed

up with Julie Meta, who I started it

with,

>> who worked on a bunch of Sabrina

Carpenter stuff last year. He's killing

it. And Steph Jones to help finish the

lyrics. And then

>> basically we sent it to Mr. Gibb um who

had come to shows with his family um

before and and just been the absolute

best company and and um really, you

know, supported us early in our career

and and spent some time with our father

and talked about the industry and all

this stuff. So, we got word back within

a couple days that it was approved and

that they they were excited about the

song. It was like awesome.

>> We have a collab with

>> Bees with Barry. I mean, the the uh the

uh the BeeGees were really big growing

up for me and they were like very famous

brothers who also like you guys had

>> good hair,

>> great hair,

>> incredible hair,

>> the flow,

>> just incredible hair. And that's very

cool that that Barry uh was he must have

been excited about

>> I mean it's exciting

>> interpolation

>> interpolation.

>> Um so this yeah the song's just come

out. Very excited about

>> it's a really song

>> off a new album Greetings from your

hometown. Oh they gave you an old edit

too. You're listening to

>> this is an old edit.

>> Yeah I mean I guess yeah use it.

>> Yeah they gave you an exclusive. Well,

somebody was like, "I can't understand

what you're saying, Joe."

>> And I was like, I was like, "I can

understand what I'm saying." And they're

like "Well

>> we can't. You have to re-record it." So,

I had to re-record it. And

>> on behalf of people that like short

concerts, we didn't use it.

>> We stick to the original

>> cuz must have been off that email. It

was It was not It didn't sound as cool

as when you were mumbling.

>> When you were

I'd like to know what you're saying

because I can't understand it and I want

to sing along. I'm saying side to side

when your hands up top.

>> Joe does not know what he's singing.

>> Side to side.

>> You throw some babies and O's in there

and it like works.

>> I was just relisting to Cake by the

Ocean the other day, actually. And it's

also kind of hard to understand what

you're saying there, but that that

worked out just fine.

>> Do you know what you're saying there?

>> Um, well, maybe that's another sign of a

good song. If it's a mumbler, it's a

worker.

>> Well, I think most people don't know.

Yeah.

>> I constantly

>> will see people in the audience be like,

I'm mumble mumble mumble and then cake

by the ocean. That's usually how it

goes.

>> Yeah. You just got to get to there.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> I think that flexibility and being able

to pivot and also like having a good

sense of humor about yourself is why

it's like longevity in the business. And

I do feel like you you all have that.

You just have to keep pivoting and you

have to stay kind of flexible and you

have to have a good sense of humor about

yourself. Did you learn any of that

stuff when you were like young and

because I a lot of people that come to

SNL if they come from having experience

at Disney, we would always say that what

they knew how to do really well was work

hard and be professional. Like it is to

be professional is

>> it's a a learned skill. People don't

know how to necessarily show up to a set

and figure out how to hit their mark and

like how to be prepared like those are

learned skills and that was always the

case with a lot of musicians who came

through the show who had that. Did you

feel like you learned stuff like that

there when you were there?

>> Definitely. The thing that Disney and

working with Disney on, you know, Camp

Rock projects or our TV show

>> um

>> what it really taught us was work ethic

and and the ability to be on a set. We

we had, you know, we had never done

anything on a film or TV set and and it

it's really good training ground. Now,

it doesn't necessarily prepare you for

like deep character work, but that's not

really what it's there to do. It's it's

>> really fun, entertaining stuff for a

certain demographic. And I think, you

know, in our

>> maybe in in our like late teens when we

were sort of aging out of playing high

schoolers and stuff and then, you know,

obviously in our 20s,

>> there's there's that moment where you're

kind of embarrassed by it or you're

like, "Man, we're we're known for this

thing." Thankfully, we've been able to,

you know, make career moves and and

things where we can look back on that

fondly. And I think it it marks a

chapter in, you know, our our fans life

now who have grown up too and their kids

are being intro introduced to

>> and those people just like the song is

for them, those people don't want to

feel embarrassed about the stuff they

used to like. I mean, that's the thing

is like we all when we were younger like

really invested in things

>> at that tender age and we cared about

it,

>> right? and you guys were around for a

lot of people's tender ages and now

everyone's growing up together and it's

like why do we want to go back and be

mean to the younger version of ourselves

like we're just trying to figure it out.

>> Guilty pleasure is a bad word in my

house.

>> Oo why why

>> it's like it's because it's like you

should be allowed Yeah. Thanks. This is

what this is this is what I deal with

got them.

>> Uh yes, Nick. It's too come back from

that bro.

>> Like he's literally sweating like now.

We're going to come back from that.

>> You got this, eldest. Here we go. It's

been fun. Thanks.

>> We're with you. Guilty pleasure is a bad

word. Guilty pleasure is a bad word.

>> Because it's guilty pleasure is a bad

word because words uh because it it

literally is

>> defines who you are.

>> You could be you should be allowed to

like what you like.

>> I think it's agree. I love it. I I think

it's fun to think about when you were a

kid the things that you're into that you

still love and there was a season where

you're like nervous about it. We used to

go on a school bus with CDs and taped

cassettes in our hands and back then

you'd like kind of be shy to like show

what you're listening to. Now it's like

>> through Spotify you can listen to

everything and you're like it's it's

everywhere which is nice and it's not

like a big deal that you're listening to

>> this style music and that style music

and there's you know

>> it goes into other weird things too

>> in a totally different context with you.

I was have this conversation with some

people the other day which is like it's

so hard to get anything made.

>> Totally. Oh, dude.

>> You It's so difficult to get anything

made, produced, put on a platform of any

kind. Yes.

>> And it just feels like we don't have to

>> use use a blanket statement like it's

objectively excellent. It can just be

good to whoever is receiving it.

>> You're absolutely right. And also, don't

you feel like now that you're like

you've spent 20 years making things that

you really are just I mean, I find

myself being way less. I mean, when

you're a teenager in your 20s, there's a

a lot of black and white like I'll

always I'll never that sucks. That's

great. You're trying to figure out your

taste and who you are. But as you get

older, you do and and if you you're

lucky enough to make things, you really

do feel like, oh, there's something

interesting there and I like how that

was made and I know that was hard and I

can figure out that process and I

understand what they were trying to say

there, but maybe it didn't hit there.

Like you just understand the complexity

of making things.

>> Yeah. It's so different.

>> Can I put you in the hot seat for a

second?

>> Always.

>> I have a question about

things that that you you you've done you

did. that when you look back on is there

anything you like in the moment you're

like this is silly and you know people

are laughing but did did it feel like

uh this is annoying to be happy doing

this bit that they're enjoying and I'm

personally like not loving it

>> I know what you mean um like

>> the most articulate yeah like is yeah I

think like especially as an actor you

know you're you're worried that the way

you enter the business will always be

the way that you're seen in the business

And it's like, will I be typ cast? Like

I I remember when I first started, I was

doing all these crazy characters. Like I

played this young sister of Conan

O'Brien on like Late Night with Con

O'Brien. Like I was like a nut. And then

I would get cast a lot as just this

like, you know, really like intense

person.

>> And then I did a lot of movies and TV

shows where I was an intense person with

lots of energy, like just kind of

forcing people to do things. And I was

good at it. I liked doing it and but

then I would worry sometimes am I just

always playing this kind of person like

am I always going to be seen as this way

and um you know even just being like a

starting in sketch like it was like will

people just always think of me as this

kind of way and just like you said

>> it started to become

>> less the thing I worried about and more

the thing I was just proud of because

>> I learned so much from it. I got I got

to do so many things because of it. And

as long as you believe that you are not

limited,

>> then you're not.

>> Yeah, totally.

>> You don't have to, you know, it's

basically just like other people's

opinion is none of your business.

>> Totally.

>> It just takes a long time to get there.

I think

>> actually after I I did SNL uh one time

and and somebody said to me, it was it

was exactly what I needed to hear.

>> It was one of the writers came and said,

"Hey just

>> don't try to be funny." Mhm.

>> And I was like, "Oh, that's that like

hurts in the moment, but then it's like,

but that's so accurate. It's funny,

>> right?

>> So, you don't have to jam it to be

funny." And it was like so freeing. And

then I stopped worrying about like, am I

being silly or am I being this? I'm

just,

>> you know,

>> saying the words that are already funny.

>> But that's the vibe I get from you guys

is your confidence in just like goofing

around and being funny. And I mean, it

is. It is. It's just when you get out of

your own head and you're just But it

takes some time. I think I think it like

that's that's what comes with age.

>> Well, you're in my favorite movie ever.

You know that.

>> Okay.

>> Our favorite.

>> He talks about it. They talk about it.

>> It's a frame poster that Nick has in his

back.

>> I'm going to talk to you about

something. So, we do this thing at the

beginning of each podcast where we talk

to people who know our guest and we kind

of talk well behind their backs and we

and I and I get to know the guest a

little bit and I kind of prep for the

guest with someone who knows them. So, I

talked to Jack McBreer.

>> Okay. I was about to say,

>> ah, love Jack. He text me yesterday.

>> Love him.

>> Yeah.

>> And he's, you know,

huge lot of friends, but there's only

one Jack that sends a birthday video to

you every year, no matter what.

>> No matter what on your birthday.

>> And it's like I have like people I see

like every day that don't do that.

>> He, in fact, when we were talking, he

said, "I only have one birthday today."

And I realized like, "This is a

full-time job to keep up with

everybody."

>> He's a he's it's a thing. And people

should know we have the same birthday.

>> We have the same birthday.

>> September 16th.

>> Same year.

>> Molly Shannon. Same year.

>> Molly Shannon also has a birthday.

That's right.

>> Oh.

>> Um,

>> you know, I I set up her Instagram.

>> That's amazing. Tell us about

>> this is a real story. So bizarre. We

were we were at uh Sundance Film

Festival back in 2016 or 17. And we end

up at this bar. We're like having a few

drinks, talking. And she's like, "My

daughter really thinks I should get on

Instagram. Do you know how to do it?" I

was like, "Yeah, give me your phone."

And so I set up her thing and it's it's

like the official superstar is her name.

>> Yeah.

>> Cuz we were like a few drinks in just

like, "What should we say your name is?"

>> Stuck. Yeah. I set up.

>> That's cool. That and that is very And

he still runs it.

>> And he has the password still.

>> Yeah.

>> Text him photos and videos and say,

"Hey, can Nick, can you get this up in

the next hour?"

>> And Nick's like, "I have two shows

today. Like, I don't have time for

this."

>> Like, uh, damn it, Nick. get it up now.

>> Um, so Jack is such like it just loves

you guys so much and um and Jack and I

laughed because during deep co when no

one was going out and everybody was

wearing gloves and masks and meeting

each other in the driveway. Jack came to

my house to have me sign a they came

together poster for you. Um because he

said the things we do during co

>> also like it's not like I'm this isn't

like a bit like it's legit my it brings

me the most joy of

>> I love that movie. For people who don't

know Paul Rudd and I did a movie that

David Wayne directed

>> um that Michael Scha Walter and David

Wayne wrote was a parody of a romcom.

>> Yeah. And it's it's brilliant. Like it's

>> I did a movie with Paul last year, which

comes out either this later this year or

next year.

>> And I the first day on set, I was like,

I have to like just ask you how this

happened. What's the story? And he kind

of gave me the the load. It was a a

table read or something that then, you

know, you guys did the movie. But but my

point about it is like it's not just one

of those like hilarious quotable movies.

It's really smart

>> and like it makes

>> I feel like it's a lot of the comedy

that Tim Robinson's doing now, too.

Yeah, like it it sort of ahead of it

time. It's so good. And I do have the

signed poster. And Jack

>> didn't remember that he was in the

movie.

>> And then we're we're at a friend's

house. We're actually at

>> hilarious.

>> Glenn Powell's house with

>> I heard you guys are friends with Glenn

Powell.

>> Yeah. And and I'm like, have you guys

ever seen They Came together? And

everyone's like, "No, let's let's let's

watch it." And Jack's like, "Oh, I'm in

this movie."

>> No. Was that real or was that a Jack

bit? No, I think he legit forgot that he

was in the movie. He's super famous and

he works a lot

>> and he was in like playing basketball.

He might have forgot

>> that scene is so good.

>> There's a hilarious scene in the movie

where it's just,

>> you know, it's that moment in every

movie where the men are just trying to

figure things out and they each

represent like a different point of

view. I'm the married guy.

>> I think you should stay with

>> Swish. They're basically

>> Kobe

>> talking about dating and they're just

like speaking ex um

>> you know just saying their exposition

out loud. Now I'm the guy that doesn't

think you should commit and they're

playing terrible basketball.

>> It's so good. My other favorite scene is

when you guys are sitting in the coffee

shop

>> and he's like on the phone and you're

like let me try and you you can't do it.

>> That when you're ordering the coffee and

it's the long thing we shot that in like

he remembers your order days. You want

to get a movie with key?

>> I know. I know the whole movie.

>> It's so good. Wait up, would you?

>> That's my favorite bit.

>> Yeah, wait up.

>> Hey, big brother, slow down.

>> Max Greenfield's so good.

>> Okay, so Jack had a question which is

which um it was so is so cute. And so

Jack, but his question was like, what

are y'all's conflict style? Like how do

you how do you figure out arguments?

Like how do you between the three of us?

Yeah.

when you argue, what some people like to

um withdraw, some people like to tease,

some people like to argue. Like, how do

you what is your con conflict style?

>> It's interesting. I I feel like it ends

up being

>> it's it's some combination of two people

are fighting, the other is just like

sitting back watching and observing. And

>> that's usually how it is.

>> Okay. Or mediating,

>> playing referee or mediating or it's

just like go go off like do your thing,

get this figure out. Is anyone a yeller?

>> None of us are really yellers. We're We

We can be like

>> react uh defensive, reactive.

>> Uh anyone a punisher? Like a silent

treatment person?

>> Nick a bit.

>> Mhm.

>> A little bit. Yeah. At times.

>> I think that's like a Maybe I'm

>> just trying to work through it.

>> Work through it. Yeah. Not like I'm not

doing it on purpose.

>> Yeah. You're just like I'm going to go

over here and work and then I'll come

back

>> and we'll talk through it.

>> Yeah.

>> I'm reactive.

>> I've always been that way. I try to work

on it all the time.

>> Eldest. It's hard. It's my life,

>> you know. Um, Matt, I wonder if it's my

struggle.

>> So reactive reactive

>> like I I just snap back and I don't

always mean what I'm

>> Well, you have a tough job. It's very

hard being

>> Thank Thank you. I appreciate talking to

you so much. It's so nice. So, I want to

finally get

>> No, I I work on it. It's But I also have

a very I have anticipatory anxiety about

things.

>> A big word.

>> You're killing it on the words.

>> You're all over the map today.

>> Um, right. So, you're thinking ahead,

but that's because I would argue you're

thinking ahead of like you're just

wanting to make sure like um I'm going

to future trip so I can be safe in the

future.

>> That's exactly right. And I also I think

through it in the negative.

>> Okay. Because like a little bit of a

catastrophizer.

>> Yeah. It's about what would happen if I

said this and they're going to react

this way and then I go this way. It's

like it's that.

>> Mhm.

>> So, I'm dealing with it sometimes.

>> I love that.

>> Your joy

>> the character.

>> Yeah. I literally just I'm like you're

saying this I'm like oh my god

>> your joy.

>> I was like this is a script when I said

>> are you reading a script right now your

anxiety

>> know the whole way you broke that down

like to protect yourself I'm like this

is the plot for Inside Out 2.

>> It's true.

>> It's so good so good out too. I watched

it with my daughter and we're both

crying for different reasons.

>> So it's like you're in all my favorite

movies including my subway commercials

that I love. Thanks.

>> Thanks. Let's give a shout out to Subway

while we can and we'd love for them to

give us little

>> I literally heard it this morning.

>> Subway as in like the sandwich.

>> I was Yeah. I I heard New York subway. I

heard it New York City.

>> I'm just trying to get the New York

subway up. Give him a little bit of

>> a little notoriety.

>> Yeah.

>> Uh I heard you this morning as I got out

of the shower. I was like, I'm going to

see her later.

>> Um but there is something about I I have

two sons. I think that relationship with

brothers is really like really beautiful

and cool because exactly what we saw we

just see like in this hour is the way

you gently tease each other the way you

kind of keep each other. We got there I

think. Oh, sorry. I'm gonna try. No,

please tell me.

>> Say we had a superstar mom, too. So that

or we still do, but we

>> Okay. What did she do that

>> she I mean four boys in one home. She

was the boss, you know. There's just And

also understanding how to be nice guys

to women. And uh at when we were growing

up just like I think we we needed a a

loud voice like her to be able to

control us and also make sure that we

weren't like pieces of [ __ ] So, I think

that was important. But I think also

like

>> yeah, brothers are boys are so different

than girls.

>> I like I watch like I'll watch my kids

on the playground and I'm like it's like

delicate and then this kid will be like

and dive off the top of a slide and

you're just like that is that is a boy.

>> Yeah. I mean your frontal loes close

later. I mean

>> I was just going to say that.

>> Yeah.

>> Were you? his still working on.

>> Um but but yeah, I mean what is the best

I mean I know you've been asked this a

million times. It is an what is the best

thing about working with your brother

like being brothers working together?

What is the best part of it?

>> Um there is a built-in safety net that

um it's not to say you can't develop

with friends and co-workers and all that

but but they need nothing from me. I

need nothing from them but just real

connection and love and and respect and

and um we're we're family like we're

blood so it's just it hits different. It

makes every

>> high super high makes every low uh a

little easier to to navigate and and you

know

>> the mundane stuff in between becomes

even more fun because you get to do it

with with two people that you not only

love and respect but you genuinely have

a good time with.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, so that's that's my feeling.

>> That's nice. I mean, I'm I'm the same

way. Like, I'd like to

fail or succeed with someone.

>> Yeah, it is amazing.

>> Um, so, uh, last question. What are you

guys listening to, watching, reading,

playing that makes you laugh these days

in these like very difficult times where

life is pretty rough and the world is um

>> uh hanging on by a thread. Yeah. Yeah.

>> What do you What do you do to to like

check out or laugh or make yourself

>> I really enjoyed the Four Seasons show

on Netflix. I like that a lot.

>> Um I interviewed Will Forte um on this

pod which uh and um Tina I think they're

like I love watching them together.

Okay. It was great. I love it.

>> Um

>> so like cozy cozy shows.

>> Yeah. That's not always my I mean I love

the studio. I thought that was so studio

was great. So funny. It was so good. The

last two episodes were ridiculous. The

cast is insane.

>> The cast is Catherine is another level.

>> Oh my gosh.

>> Character is incredible, too.

>> I I've just been like I restarted

watching all of Nathan for you because I

watched the rehearsal which I think is

just so brilliant and messed up and

insane.

>> Yeah.

>> And he finds the most interesting

people.

>> It's just so great. Did you watch the

new season

>> of rehearsal? I'm watching it right now.

The second season. Okay. So I So

>> woman that talks about

>> it gets me very stressed. Oh, of course.

>> And um yeah, I I have

>> it's just

>> there's like a mirror neuron thing where

I get like very nervous.

>> He just will keep asking questions and

he knows what he's up to.

>> I was at a restaurant restaurant

recently and he I saw him and I I when I

see somebody that I really like I think

I love their work. I don't want to say

hi, but I'll like can I send them a

drink or maybe just whatever they're

eating and whatever. Can I send

something? And I don't need to say hi.

I'll sometimes try to leave before and I

saw him. I was like, "Oh my god, like I

love him. I have to like I'm going to

send him I sent him a drink, him and his

friend." And about 30 minutes later, um

the waiter brought over a dollop of

mayonnaise and handed it to me and

they're like, "This is from Nathan." And

I look over and he goes and he goes back

to this. And my friends are g laughing

so hard. I'm like, "Guys, he wants Don't

laugh. He wants it so bad." And he was

really kind enough. And he walked over.

He's like, "Did you get my gift?

The waiter said that she went to the

chef and was like, she's like, I think I

may have put my job on the line because

>> I asked for a double and that the chef

was so mad. It's a pretty nice

restaurant. Was so mad. She's like,

please, please. She's like, but I think

both of you are really great. And I just

was like, this will be a story I can use

forever. So,

>> she did it. She did that. I'm glad she I

have we learned nothing from the bear.

We need to give the customer what they

want.

>> Exactly. Exactly.

>> Yes, chef.

>> Yes, chef. And what about you, Kev? What

are you?

>> Um I am currently me and my wife we go

through like long form like sitcoms like

that have like 900 seasons. We just like

started as like feel good. So we're in

the middle of Big Bang Theory again.

>> Just so good.

>> Love a rewatch.

>> A simple rewatch.

>> It's a simple rewatch. Yeah.

>> Um okay, I'm going to let you guys go.

You have so much fun. That was really

really fun. That was a blast. Thank you

so much for doing it.

>> What a good hang.

>> It was a good hang. and thank you for

singing with me and refreshed. Put that

out as a single and you just talk to

your people about it. Um, all right.

Thanks guys.

>> Thank you. Bye.

>> Bye.

>> Bye.

>> Thank you, Jonas Brothers. That was so

great. Kevin, Joe, Nick, thank you for

being here um on a two show day. Um uh

and and and and letting us uh hang with

you and um watching you hang with each

other. It's it's you guys are a lot of

fun and I really enjoyed this episode.

And uh now it's time for the special

part of the show, the Polar Plunge. And

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time for the Polar Plunge. We talked

about

music and going to shows. And I just

want to say again, if if you're an

artist putting your set list together,

cut it in half. We want the show to be

shorter. Yes, there are great artists

who have threehour bodies of work that

we should go and see and support, but

for the most part, my favorite show is a

fast one. You know what I loved? I went

to the Hollywood Bowl a couple years ago

in Los Angeles. I saw Billy Joel. The

show was an hour and a half. We all sat

down the entire time and I sang all of

his lyrics because he's easy to

understand. So, thank you, Billy. Um,

thank you to everybody who sat down.

Let's just get that. Let's normalize

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Thank you for listening. Bye.

You've been listening to Good Hang. The

executive producers for this show are

Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and

me, Amy Polar. The show is produced by

The Ringer and Paperkite. For The

Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Cat

Spalain, Kaia McMullen, and Alia

Xanerys. for Paperkite production by Sam

Green, Joel Levelvel, and Jenna Weiss

Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.

>> Was a really good Hey