June Squibb on Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hello everyone. This is Amy Puller.

Welcome to another episode of Good Hang.

I'm in a different studio today, but

don't worry, I have my fake food with

me, so no need to panic. Um, but I have

the great June Squib here today. June is

a legend. She is an incredible artist

and wonderful person, and we talked

about a lot of things today. We're going

to talk about um Eleanor the Great, her

new movie that premiered at Can. We're

going to talk about what it was like

being an actor in New York in the 1950s

her love of sketch comedy, the fact that

we were both in Inside Out. Um, and and

we're going to just talk about her

incredible career and what it's like

being 95. Uh, which June makes it look

real good. So, I always like to do this

at the beginning of every episode. We

talk well behind our guests back and we

have someone who has worked with June in

a great film called Nebraska. He is SNL

alum, an incredible actor, and dear

friend, Will Forte, joining us from a

trailer somewhere on the set of

Something. Hi, Will.

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Hello. How are you

>> Will, Forte?, It, looks, like, you're, in, a

trailer.

>> I, am, in, a, trailer.

>> Where, where, are, we, talking, to, you, from?

>> I'm, I, don't, even, know., I'm, in, I'm

outside of Atlanta somewhere. I'm like

an hour south. Mcdana, I think it's

called Mcdana, Georgia.

>> Um,, we, are, talking, to, June, Squib, today.

>> Get, ready., Very, excited, for, you.

>> I'm, very, excited.

>> You've, met, her, before,, right?

>> You, know what?, We, only, met, once, briefly

at a Pixar event cuz we were both there

for Inside Out 2.

>> Wait,, you, came,, didn't, you, come, to, the

Nebraska screening in New York?

>> Well,, I, don't, remember., I, don't, I, don't

remember things. If you say I was there

sure, but I don't have any memory of

that.

>> I, think, you, might, have, been, there,, but

it doesn't mean you ever met her. Like

like in fact, she might not have even

been there. I in fact, I think she

wasn't there. If someone tells me

something happened, I have to believe

them because I if someone could come up

to me at this point and say like, "We

were roommates in New York." And I would

say "Okay."

>> Yeah.

>> Because, I, cannot, remember.

>> Somebody, asked, me, the, other, day, if, I, met

Oprah Winfrey. And I I couldn't answer.

And I'm like, I love Oprah. I would You

would think that I would know if I met

her or not. I can't remember.

Um, where when do you remember meeting

June?

>> I, met, June, for, the, first, time, uh, about, a

week before we started shooting

Nebraska. Um, we got together to do some

little rehearsals and she was just very

instantly

charming and made me put me right at

ease because I was very nervous about

the experience. She was just so so

wonderful.

>> What, um, what, were, you, nervous, about, at

the time? I just had never really done

a, you know, something that was more on

the dramatic side, even though it's kind

of a a comedy and a drama, but uh, you

know, to do it on that scale with

uh, you know, with the director

Alexander Payne, and then, you know

Bruce Stern and June Squib, it was it

was daunting.

>> And, do, do, you, how, would, you, say, June

works? How does she like to work? Does

she like to rehearse? Is she loose? that

she really

>> from, what, I, remember

June had the entire

script memorized before we even started.

You can ask her if that's true, but I'm

pretty sure that she had memorized every

one of her lines before we even started.

>> Wow,

that's so pretty.

>> I'm, like, I'm, somebody, who, really, like, I

try hard to to make sure that everything

is memorized. that I don't want to be

the person who screws that up, but I

mean I was just blown away by that. Like

I that was way over the top.

>> That's, I, mean, when, I've, been, doing

research on her, she's such a formidable

actress and started out in the theater

and just has like a ton of experience

and training, so it's not surprising to

me, but that is a that's a lot to

memorize.

>> Yeah., And, she, just, was, amazing., It's

such a pro and at the same time so warm

and just you you just love being around

her., You'll, you'll, see., You, know what

I'm finding is so many people, I bet the

you've seen this too, like people 90 and

over, non-agenarians or whatever, people

tend to either speak to them like

they're little kids, like say like, "How

are you?" Like, "Are you having a nice

day?"

Or they assume that they've got a ton of

wisdom that they want to share. like

they assume like they're, you know, tell

us your secrets. Like, and what I've

noticed about when I've done some

research on June is June does not, you

know, she's so together with it and in

the moment. Like, she's not interested

in being like this wise person who's

learned all these lessons. She seems

very current, I guess, is the best way

to put it.

>> Yeah., I, mean,, she, has, that, wisdom, for

sure, but isn't like she doesn't hit you

in the face with it. She's just like

she's just she's per she's like the

perfect person because she's like super

sweet but got a little a little spice to

her also. It's it's it's just a a

perfect combination.

>> Did, she, ever, like, did, she, ever, get, give

you some wisdom?

>> A, few, times.

Few times. Did she ever what?

>> Did, she, ever, give, you, any, wisdom, or, did

she ever give you or did she ever like

have a little sharp tongue like little

spice that you saw while you were

working together?

>> Well,, that's, the, thing, is, like, she's, so

sweet but then she she the part that she

plays in the movie is, you know, she's

defending the family and and she gets

really spicy.

>> Okay., So,, do, you, have, a, question, you

think we should ask June? Anything you

think you'd want to hear on this

podcast?

>> Question., June,, my, question, is,, what, is

your favorite food and why? And will you

please tell me in song?

Answer the question in song, an existing

or madeup song.

>> Well,, I, mean,, hopefully, we, can, get, the

rights to whatever thing she sings

but that's a perfect question, Will.

>> Okay., Okay.

>> Let's, You, want, to, take, it, one, more, time?

Yeah. And and and just play around with

it. Have fun.

>> What, is, the, uh, Oh, my, god., Okay.

>> And, no, pressure,, but, we, are, we, are

getting ready to break for lunch, so

let's whenever you're ready.

>> Oh,

knew this was going to happen. June

hello. I love you and I miss you. You

are one of the most wonderful people

I've ever gotten to work with. My

question to you is this.

What is your favorite food and why? And

please answer this question in song. Uh

and that song must be in the public

domain.

Thank you.

>> Perfect, question., Um,, fore, do, you, think

you're going to live to 95 and do you

want to?

>> I, know, that, I, have, the, Ouija, board, has

said I will be dead at 73 by stabbing.

But I think I'm going to figure out a

way like whoever makes it through those

Final Destination movies, I'm going to

be that guy and I I will make it to 95.

I believe it.

>> How, about, you?

>> I, hope, so., I, definitely, won., I, want, to

make it to 100 and I June is

aspirational to me. I want to be like

June at 95, working occasionally, having

fun, having fun with my friends, like

being really sharp.

>> I, I, She's

>> She, is, an, amazing, role, model, and, I'm, I'm

with you.

>> Yeah,, I, uh, I, I, can't, wait, to, have, her.

All right. I love you so much. Thank you

so much for getting on and doing this in

the middle of your work day.

>> Have, fun, with, her., I'm, jealous, get, to

talk to her for so long. Thanks, buddy.

But tell her hi for me.

>> Talk, to, you.

>> Love, you., Bye.

>> Bye.

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>> Juna,, I'm, so, happy, to, have, you, here.

Well, I'm thrilled to be here.

>> You, know,, someone, asked, me, today., They

said, "Have you have you met June?" And

I said "Well, we've met in that like

Hollywood way where we've just like seen

each other at events, but we haven't

really been able to show."

>> I, remember, Scarlet, and, I, saw, you, at, the

rehearsal for the Oscar presenters.

>> That's, right., That's, right., Scarlett

Johansson.

>> Yeah., That's, the, last, time, I, think, I, saw

you.

>> And, we, A, lot, of, people, don't, know, that

you have to kind of show up for those

events and rehears them. Yeah. which is

kind of good because you have to see

where to walk and

>> Oh,, I, would, have, been,, you, know,, I, had

never done it before. I'm sure she has

but I I hadn't. And so it was all

completely, you know, new to me about

where you go, what you do, everything.

>> You, were, in, a, new, movie, right, now, that

Scarlet directed.

>> That, Scarlet, directed., Yes.

>> Helen, the, Great.

>> Her, directing, debut

feature, excuse me. Do you like working

with first-time directors?

>> I, do., And, I've, worked, with, quite, a, few.

I really have.

>> What, do, you, like, about, it?

>> Um,

I I find if they're good, they're good

you know, if they know what they're

doing. And firsttime directors so often

do. And I think that many of them work

hard at finding out what to do. You

know, if they're confused or not sure

they try to make sure they find out the

answers. Do you have a a a style or a

way that you like to be directed? Do you

like more thoughts right away? Do you

like rehearsal? Do you like Do you like

Do you like Do you have a way to prep in

a way that you like?

>> I, certainly, prep, in, a, certain, way., Yeah,

I I learn by just going over and over

and over. But in doing that, I'm

studying the script. So, I know that

script backwards and forward by the time

I get on set. I really do. I I I just I

just feel

>> you, know, I, know, everything, about, it.

>> Do, you, think, it, comes, from, your

training?

>> Yeah,, I, think, I, was, in, theater, for, so

many years and the learning process is

different because there you usually

learn as you rehearse

>> and, of, course, with, film, we, learn, and

then go do it. Yeah. Yeah. So, it is

there's a difference, but basically with

theater, God, did we ever learn the on

time thing, you know, which is so

everybody preaches in film all the time

too.

>> Yeah., I, feel, like, I, I, I, mean, I, don't

think enough people know your extensive

theater background and where you started

and you know you were also married to an

acting teacher and you studied a lot and

you did a lot of things and can you tell

me a little bit about what it was like

in the 1950s to move to New York as an

actor? I mean I have a

>> It, was, wonderful.

>> Oh,, I, loved, it., I, loved, it., And, I, I, felt

I breathed really fully for the first

time in my life.

>> And, I, had, had, five, years, at, the

Cleveland Playhouse. So that prepared me

in so many ways for New York. But there

was nothing like New York and being

young in New York, being in the theater

and I was one of the lucky ones that

started working fairly soon.

>> Where, were, you, living, when, you, first

moved to New York?

>> Uh, we, lived, there, were, three, of, us., my

first husband and a very dear friend

Jack Lee who was a Broadway conductor

before his career ended

>> and, uh, we, lived, in, a, funny, apartment

that they took down for Lincoln Center.

>> Oh, wow.

>> Yes., We, we, lived, there, for, two, or, three

years and then they sort of bought us

out

>> and, uh, then, we, moved, though, to, a, very, uh

a duplex in the va in the va village and

it oh Albi moved in after we did

>> Edward, Albby.

>> Edward, Albby

>> the, playright.

>> Yes., Wow.

>> It, was, a, wonderful, apartment., Had, a

garden and everything.

>> Do, you, remember, what, the, rent, was, back

then? I think it was about $200.

>> Yeah.

>> And, that, was, humongous, to, us,, of, course,

at the time. It was like, we can't

afford this. Three of us, you know.

>> What, was, the, vibe, in, being, in, New, York

in that time? Cuz like what was, you

know, the postwar

boommy vibe of the 50s in New York? What

did it feel like?

>> Um,, I, I, think, it, it, I, think, it, was, very

up. I remember that. And of course we

were seeing a lot of theater and we saw

all the big musical. We saw the original

Fair Lady

>> the, original, Music, Man.

>> Uh, the, the, we, saw, Westside, Story, in, its

second or third week of playing.

>> Who, was, on, stage, then?, Do, you, remember?

>> Well,, uh

>> was, it, Cheetah?

>> Cheetah.

>> And, I, knew, a, lot, of, the, dancers, at, the

time and I don't remember their names.

>> Wow,, that's, so, cool., But, it, was, it, was, a

wonderful time

>> in, musical, theater., And, many, people

don't know this. My first 20 years in

New York was spent in musical theater.

That's right.

>> I, did, either, musical, theater, cabaret, uh

reviews, you know, some nightclub. I had

an act with another comic actor.

>> You, did?, Yes., A, comic, act., What, was, your

What kind of stuff would you guys do?

Well, we wrote everything and um

>> I, remember, we, we, wrote

>> I, wore, a, an, ape, head, and, a, beautiful

blue dress, just a real frothy dress and

he sang about loving his girlfriend no

matter what. Well, and then Cabaret did

the same thing afterwards, you know

they they and this was before Cabaret

and we did it in our act.

>> What, happened, to, the, that, partner?, Do

you

>> Barry, Denon?, Well,, we, actually, broke, up

the act because he was offered Cabaret

in London

>> as, the, MC, and, I, was, offered, Happy, Time

>> for, Broadway., So,, we, both, felt, we, wanted

to keep working singly. So, we we broke

up the act.

>> Wow.

>> But, we, did, very, we, did, some, television.

We did little

>> Yeah., What, did, you, do?, What, television

did you do back then? I mean, your IMDb

June, is incredible. I feel I feel like

I could shout out a million shows to

you. You'd be like, maybe I was on it

maybe I wasn't.

>> But, what, did, you, what, television, did, you

do?

>> It, was, some, review, thing., I, don't, even

remember what it wasn't. I think it was

local.

>> Yeah.

>> But, we, also, we, did, u, the, some, of, the

small clubs in New York.

>> Wow., I, I, just, I, just, feel, like, I, it

would be so cool to time travel back to

that time.

>> It, was, wonderful., I, mean,, and, I, think

that everybody was like eager to be

there. I mean, it was like the place to

be in the world

>> to, all, of, us,, you, know.

>> It, still, feels, that, way,, though., I, have

to say, you know, I moved to New York in

96 and it still felt like

>> when, you, arrived, there,, at, least, for, me,

it felt like some version of your life

was beginning.

>> Yeah.

>> Basically.

>> Yeah., I, felt, Well,, I, lived, there, for, 65

years before moving out here.

>> Yeah., Wow., Um,, your, family, um,, your, mom

had had a job that is it's such a great

job because it's it just doesn't exist

anymore, which is your mother. What was

your mother's job?

>> My, mother, played, piano, for, silent, films.

>> How, did, she, start, doing, that?, and

>> well, she, was, a, piano, player, and, my

grandfather owned a music store so they

were sort of into all the music that was

happening in the area. He had a store in

I grew up in Vanelia Illinois and there

was another store in Centriia Illinois

that he owned. So he they were big in

the music and I'm sure that's how it

happened.

>> So, were, you, was, your, mom, teaching, you

how to sing and play from an early age?

No, she she played the piano and she

taught piano

>> and, um, because, she, taught, piano, and

played piano. I didn't want to have

anything to do with the piano and they

she tried to teach me and it didn't work

out. So she sent me to another teacher

in Bandelia and that didn't work out and

so the teacher said I think June maybe

should give up on the piano. So she sent

me back to my mother. So my mother said

"Well, I'm going to try again." So she

was giving me a lesson and she went

outside. For some reason, she came back

and I was playing the piano with my

feet.

I never had to touch a piano again.

I got out of it. She saw me and she

said, "This is it. This is it." I mean

it it's Isn't it funny that it's kind of

like the last thing you want to do often

is the thing your parents are doing.

Yeah.

>> Um, and

>> did, you, what, did, they, think, about, you

being an actor moving in? Like were they

supportive? Were they

>> They, were, not, support, My, father, was

somewhat supportive. My mother was

never. She saw me on Broadway doing a

supporting role in a big musical and

said, "Well, do you think you'll come

home now?

I I don't think so. And I was married

again. I mean, you know, it was

ridiculous. But in her mind, yeah, I was

I might decide to come home again.

>> Well,, I, don't, think, people, remember

that, you know, now in this world where

everybody is like, you know, creating

content and being, you know, famous and

trying to be like I don't think people

remember during that time acting was a

very treacherous.

>> Oh,, yeah.

>> Uh,, you, know,, uneven, profession., Many

people didn't make it. I mean

>> I, I, have, been, lucky, with, my, career, and, I

I would think you feel the same way.

>> Absolutely., Yes., And, so, many, really

talented people. I don't I mean it's a

very difficult you know it's a difficult

>> career, to, to, want, let, alone, to

>> what, I, see, you, do, that, I, feel, like, I

relate to is like I've always wanted you

know um kind of diversity and longevity

in my career and half the battle is

hanging in there like just kind of in

getting rejected a lot and just kind of

hanging in and believing in yourself

because it's

>> it, is, it, can, be, a, really, long, runway

before you feel

>> yeah, Who, was, someone, that, you, worked

with when you were young and you thought

I feel like I'm in the right place?

>> I, think, with, Ethel, Murman, with, Gypsy., Uh

and I was with that show eight eight

months in on Broadway and then eight

months on the road with her. And um she

was an amazing woman, an amazing woman.

And everybody loved her that was in the

company. She was very much a house fra.

She loved gossip. She loved to hear

everything she could about anybody in

the show.

>> And, she, used, to, tell, me, dirty, jokes

>> all, the, time., She, would, be, we, were

getting ready. I was behind a scrim. I

was so I was doing my light bulbs and

she was getting ready to come on and she

would sidle up behind me. June tune. And

then she would tell me a dirty joke

>> right, before, your, queen., What, do, you

mean doing your light bulbs?

>> Well,, I, had, uh, a, costume

>> and, you, had, to, do, your, own, light, bulbs.

>> Yeah.

>> Oh,, wow.

>> And, the, on, the, on, the, front, and, in, the

rear and the crotch. I had bulbs that

lit up

>> and, you, did, the, but, you, did

>> I, did, the, buttons, like, this., I'm, sure

they do it entirely differently now

because it's running on Broadway right

now. But then that's what and these long

wires went all the way up and it was

heavy because I had this huge battery in

my behind.

>> I, mean, that, term, doing, my, doing, my, light

bulbs like sounds like it could be an

old Broadway term like he he was u he

was fired for trying to do my light

bulbs.

>> Do, my, light, bulbs.

Well, I had that a few times too.

>> I, mean, I, bet, you, did., I, mean,, Judy,, you

have I mean, you could probably write a

book about how the how so much has

changed in the industry and I can only

imagine that you had to deal with

>> a, lot, of,, you, know,

>> inappropriate, behavior., It, was, it, was, a

completely different time, right?

>> Well,, you, know,, it's, funny, because, I

have friends and we were both dancers. I

mean, I danced a lot and we used when

the me too thing started

>> we, we, looked, at, each, other, and, said,, "Me

too. What I mean, you know, I know."

>> And, then, we, talked, about, it, and, you

know, we both said, "Oh my god, if we'd

had this when we were coming up, you

know, but you we both said the same

thing. We both knew when to say no. I

knew when it was going to be not good

for me." So that was it, you know

>> but, I, I, I, feel, you, like, when, I, when, when

my generation kind of looks at the

generations below and notices the things

that they don't put up with anymore and

it really makes you take stock of the

stuff that you put up with

>> that, you, that, you, did, put, up, with., Yeah.

>> Yeah., Yeah., Who's, your, favorite, dancer?

>> Uh

Jacques Dambo. Oh

>> and, I've, seen, him, dance, up, close., I

mean, you were real, not just television

or film.

>> You, have?, Where, did, you, Where

>> I, I, I, saw, him., He, was, a, guest, at, um, a

theater in

I guess it was Kansas City

or no, Dallas too. All these big

theaters. I worked a lot in those. and

>> and, um, he, was, doing, a, a, leading, role, in

one of them and I saw I saw the

rehearsal of it.

>> Wow.

>> But, I, just, think, his, career, I, mean, and

he's still

>> going.

>> He, is.

>> He, he, has

>> How, old, is, he, now?

>> A, group, Well,, I'm, sure, he's, in, his, 80s

or 90s now.

>> Everybody's, in, their, 90s, now.

>> 90s,, right?, Yes,, they, are., I, I'm, glad

you said that.

>> It's, really, true., So, many, people, in

there non non-aggenarians.

>> We're, all, living, so, much, longer.

>> I, mean, I, you, can't, get, rid, of, it.

>> It's, fantastic., I, mean, it's, a, I, mean

there are there's so many people in

their 90s now.

>> It's, fantastic., I, mean, you, know, my, my

dear friend who passed um Norman Lear

who

>> Oh, yes., um, he, made, it, to, 101

and he uh and Carl Riner and um who

passed and um Mel Brooks who's still

like there's just a lot of

>> I, mean

>> it's, almost, like, to, 100., Okay., I, mean,

you know

>> do, you, want, to, make, it, to, 100?

>> Oh,, sure., Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah., That's, a, great, number, to, make.

>> My, agents, say, I'll, still, be, working,, so

I don't know about that.

Um, I I I know you love Singing in the

Rain. You also love Jean Kelly, too

right? I know. I I

>> I, loved, his, dancing.

>> Me,, too., I, loved, him, as, a, dancer.

>> I, think, it's, some, of, the, best, dancing

and and I love Donald Connor. I thought

he was

>> His, dancing, was, rather, in, underrated

really. I think he was so much better

than many people realized.

>> And, Debbie, was, good., Debbie, was, very

good in it. Yeah

>> they, all, were., And, that, wonderful, woman

who was so funny who played the actress.

>> I, have a, laptop., I, can, find, out, who, it

is. Look

>> I, can't, remember, her, name.

>> I, mean,, I, can't, June., I, can't, remember

anybody's name. So, okay. Singing in the

rain.

>> She, played, I, can't, remember, her

character name, but it was the

>> Jean, Hagen.

>> Jean, Hagen., Yeah., Was, she, was, so, funny.

You grew up in the Midwest

>> and, uh

uh I people think I grew up in the

Midwest because I did a show that took

place in a fictional town in Indiana.

But what I love about people from the

Midwest is a real uh you know a real

sense of um community

>> and, forthrightness., Do, you, think, that

that is true? Do you do you find that to

be true? Like do you

>> Yeah,, I, think, um, the, forthrightness

is I think because everybody just sort

of always says what they think.

>> Yeah,, I, think, it's

>> it's, true., Yeah,, I, think, they, do., Even

to the detriment of perhaps the person

listening, but they say it.

>> Yeah,, I, think, that, there's, a

straightforwardness that is that's very

nice to be I find it very nice to be

around.

Do you find like as like in your life

did any of that Midwest stuff travel in

any of your work or

>> Oh,, very, much, so., Yeah,, I, think, it, did

very much. I I think there's a

stickuitous tuitousness

and I I think that that's very

Midwestern.

>> Agree.

>> I, mean,, it's, like, you've, got, a, job,, so

you do it. And no matter what that job

is, if it's yours, then you you have to

do it. I spent some years in Chicago. I

just feel like there Yeah, there was a

sense there of um

>> of, exactly, what, you, just, said,, one, foot

in front of the other.

>> There, wasn't, a, ton, of, I, don't, know

complaining.

>> You, don't, complain.

>> Yeah.

>> You, just, do, what, you're, supposed, to, be

doing.

>> Do, you, feel, you, do, that?

>> I, think, I, do., Yeah., I, think, I, think

that's something that, you know, has

been a part of me. And we were very far

south. We were on a line with St. Louis

Missouri, which is considered a southern

city really. And

I I my accent I still had a southern I

probably still do have a southern sound.

>> And, they, tried, to, take, I, remember, when, I

went to the Cleveland Playhouse, one

actor went out of his way to take the

Midwest Southern out of my voice and he

did for the most part.

>> Interesting., So, by, the, time, I, went, into

New York, it was more

>> you, know,, it, wasn't, as, southern.

>> It, was, like, voice, voice, lessons, to

flatten that out. Yeah.

>> Or, not, flatten, it, out., Maybe, take

>> not, flatten, it, out., Lemon.

>> Which, one?

>> Lemon., That's, lemon.

>> Gotcha., Lemon.

>> Lemon.

>> Lemon,, brothers.

>> Lemon.

>> I, had, lemon, in, my, tea.

>> Lemon., Lemon.

>> Lemon.

>> Oo,, that's, a, good, one., Do, you, remember

any other ones? Leman. Leman.

>> Let's, see.

>> I, know., I, know., With, my, Boston, accent,, I

had a hard time when I would do when I

would and I had to say it a lot on Parks

and Wreck where I had to say the word. I

still have to swallow before I say it.

>> Government.

>> Government.

>> Something, about, my, Boston, accent, makes

me want to say

>> government.

>> Oh,, yes., I

>> get, rid, of, that., But, it's, government.

>> Government.

>> Government., That, was, a, hard, one, for, me.

>> Yeah., Um,, and, when, you, get, does, your

accent come back at all when you're with

people?

>> If, I, get, tired,, it, does, too., I, I, get

very southern if I get tired. Picture.

>> Picture.

>> Picture., Yeah,, that's, another, one.

>> Do, you, like, doing, accents?

>> I, don't., I, I'm, not, great, at, accents., And

supposedly if you have a southern

accent, it's harder for you to do

accents.

>> I, don't, know, why., I, think, it's, the

slowness that you're I don't know, but

I've been told that or or read that or

something.

>> Have, you, ever, had, to, do, an, accent, in, a

film or a part that was challenging?

>> Yeah,, I, do., I, I, can, do, Irish, fairly

well. I've done that on stage and in

film and uh but I I'm just not I don't

have that kind of ear. I really don't

>> know, what, you, mean., I, think, you, either

have it or you don't. It's amazing to

watch like real mimics, people who can

pick it up fast.

>> And, I, I, mean,, you, know,, it, it, amaz, Some

people could just read and do it. I

mean, you know, oh, what do you want?

Polish. Okay. I mean, I can't do that.

>> I, mean,, I, can, do, it, if, I, work, at, it, a

long time. But it, you know, you can't

just throw something like that at me or

I can't do

>> I, won't, I'm, not, going, to, throw, it, at

you.

>> Oh,, good.

We're going to do the rest of this

interview and we're going to pretend

we're French.

>> French., Okay.

>> Having, come, from, musicals,, are, you

hoping to do more musical stuff? Like

do you want to ever have you been able

to do anything musical

>> lately?, I, did, a, Glee, and, I, we, I, I, think

I did three numbers in it.

>> What, did, you, sing?, Do, you, remember?

>> Memories, from, Cats., Chris, Kouler, and, I

sang that.

>> You, guys, are, buddies., Yes,, we, are, heavy

duty buddies. Uh, and we did another we

I don't I can't even remember what what

numbers it was, but memories was the big

one that we had.

>> What, uh, what, do, you, what's, so, great

about Chris? What do you What do you

love about Chris Kouler? Seems like a

peach.

>> Oh,, well,, I, met, him, on, Glee, and, he, had

written the script and was doing the

lead and it was Peter Pan and I was

playing Wendy.

It's a whole story, but anyway. So it it

we worked together so closely and I

think we were shooting there. It was big

scenes and

>> I, think, we, shot, like, a, week, and, a, half

or two weeks. It was a long shoot

>> and, I, just, sort, of, got, to, know, him, and

liked him a lot and um

so we we started then having dinner

together and he has a great partner Will

Shared who I adore too. So, it was just

you know, great fun.

>> What, do, you, what, do, you, get, what, do, you

learn from and get out of people who are

younger than you?

>> Because, I, I, mean,, as, an, older, person,, I

feel like what happens is people want to

ask you for a lot of wisdom.

>> Oh,, no., No., They, know, they're, not, going

to get it. So, they don't they don't ask

that at all from me in any way.

>> Yeah., And, I, feel, like, people, really

project on that on on people that are

older that that they have something they

want to share when in my my experience

younger people teach me stuff all the

time. Like I learn a lot from them. What

do you learn from people like Chris and

your other I know you have a lot of

younger friends.

>> Yeah., Um

I, don't, know., I, mean, I, I I, I, just, if, I

like someone I don't think I ever think

in terms of how old they are. you know

if if I feel an affinity, you know, that

there's something here that I want to

>> to, be, more, a, part, of,, you, know.

>> Yeah.

>> I, mean,, why, would, I, tell, anyone, what, to

do?

>> Well,, because, I, I, think, people, in, their

90s are treated like astronauts. I think

people are like, you you're you got to

go somewhere. You're there and what are

you bringing back? like they I think

people really, you know, I mean, it's

people, you know, we're all afraid to

die. Mortality is the thing we're

obsessed with. And when people are in

their 90s, I think there's some uh

people want to know the secret. They

want they they think you've got

something in your pocket.

>> Well,, I, don't, think, any, of, my, friends

feel that way. Let's just put it that

way. We're sort of on an even keel, you

know? Keep me happy or forget it.

>> What, age, do, you, feel, you, are?, 35.

I always feel I'm 35. I don't know what

I felt when I was younger than 35, but

as I got older, I kept referring back to

35. I don't know why.

>> I, deeply, remember, my, 35th, birthday,, too.

Yeah.

>> Maybe.

>> Where, were, you, when, you, were, 35?, What

year was that? Where were you?

>> Well,, I, was, in, New, York., I, don't, know.

I I I don't remember why 35 is so

important. I think it's because I

remember my mother at 35.

>> There, was, something, very, grand, about, her

at 35 which I did not always find

>> as, she, got, older, or, even, younger, than

that.

>> But, somehow, her, my, mother, at, 35, was

great. I agree with you that when we

meet people, I feel like we meet them

and, we, meet, very, old,, wise, 25, year olds

and we meet really like all over the

place, hectic 95year-olds. We meet all

of those people. Like the age doesn't

have a lot to do with where you're at.

>> No,, it, really, doesn't.

>> Yeah.

It makes me think about um what we're

talking about kind of makes me think

about

what we worked on together, this film

Inside Out. Inside Out 2, because

>> it's, kind, of, there's, some, themes, in

there too about the idea of time

passing. And

>> for, people, who, haven't, re, who, haven't

recognized June's voice yet as they've

been listening to it, but you played

nostalgia.

>> Nostalgia., What, I, loved, about, nostalgia

when she comes in and she's drinking her

tea is that it's it was kind of it's

kind of Buddhist what nostalgia does cuz

nostalgia kind of says remember

>> remember, basically, remember, when, we, were

all getting along but she but she she

comes in she keeps coming in during

chaos

>> to, like, kick, everybody, back, to

>> um, let's, just, take, a, minute, and, remember

which is like it feels very like I don't

know

>> but, because, they, keep, pushing, her, out

all the time.

>> I, know., It's, kind, of, interesting, why

they don't want to get nostalgic in that

moment. How what did you what is your

relation? Are you a nostalgic person?

>> Not, terribly.

>> Yeah.

>> I'm, really, not.

>> Yeah.

>> I, I've, always, been, like,, "What's, going

to happen?" Even as a young person, I

was like that.

>> Yeah., What's, next?

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah., And, do, you, think, that's, one, of, the

reasons why you've worked so much and

had such a long career as you've been

thinking?

>> I, think, it, probably, has, a, lot, to, do, with

a career. Yeah.

>> Yeah., And, you, the, the, working, so, much, I

mean you know when I started out I would

have done anything and I think you have

to I think when you're just starting you

know either out here in Hollywood or in

New York where wherever you are or

Chicago cuz there's a big group there.

>> Um, you, have, to, do, everything., you, you

can't say no to anything

>> because, it's, it's, working, keeping, that

thing going that that is going to save

you you know

>> I, know, you, describe, yourself, as, a

character actor

>> and, that, and, I, love, the, way, you, talk

about how you approach you know I you

know you're obviously done these amazing

films in which you've led them and been

number one on the call sheet and been

nominated for awards and you've done so

much work where you have been um part of

an ensemble, part of a like and you talk

a lot about how you treat them the same.

>> I, do.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Why?

>> Well,, I, to, be, honest, with, you,, I, feel, if

I'm doing it, it's the most important

thing in the film.

>> I've, always, felt, that.

>> And, that, just, carries, through., I, mean,

you know, and I I think too, you know

you've seen films where somebody comes

in and does one scene and you, Wow

who's that? I mean, you just don't know.

>> Yeah.

>> And, and, I, just, I, like, the, work., I, enjoy

doing what you do to get get it up there

on the screen.

>> When, you, worked, on, your, performances, in

about Schmidt and Nebraska are so good.

Your Thelma is so great. You and Fred

are so great in that together. And then

Ellen are great. When you work on films

like that with directors like and you've

got you you've memorized your script, do

you like to come in feeling like you

know who you are already or are you are

you hoping that that gets kind of shaped

as you're working?

I think it's more shaped as as it goes

on and you know and I think I know a lot

>> but, I, I, also, work

with no idea of what I'm going to do. I

have none.

>> Yeah.

>> So, the, what, happens, is, what, happens, hits

me and then that's how I react.

>> Who, are, some, of, your, favorite, scene

partners? people where you felt like you

were in the scene with them and you

there was a a vibe that was really

working.

>> Uh, well,, Richard, Roundtree, and, Fred, in

Thelma. I think they were both kind of

amazing.

>> Yeah.

Um and and Elellanar u

Aaron as the young girl that we have so

much together

>> and, um, well, Jack, Nicholson, I, mean, he, was

he was so great and so wonderful to work

with and he always made me feel like a

peer. He never once

>> well, he, better, you, are, a, beer.

>> Yeah., Well,, but, you, know,, I, came, in, and

and uh he could he could so easily have

been I'm Jack Nicholson and you're not.

You know that one of those and he never

ever that I I I appreciate that so much

with him.

>> Love, to, hear, that.

>> Um, did, you, ever, have, a, a, young, actor, in

their first role or film and you've

thought, "Oh, they're very good." and

then see them, you know, ascend over

like do does anyone come to mind?

>> Uh,, I, did, sendable, woman

and oh god, what is his name?

>> We, can, look, it, up., We've, got, Albuccino,

Chris O'Donnell, Philip Seymour

>> Philip.

>> Wow., Oh, yeah,

>> it, was, so, funny, because, I, had, a, a, I, had

a scene with both Chris and and

Philillip and I came home and I said

"Boy, I just worked with this young kid

and he is going to be so big." I said

"This kid's going to be a star." I knew

it immediately.

>> What, did, you, see?, What, did, you, remember

seeing in him?

>> I, don't, know, what, it, was., There, was

something about him and he he was he was

he was never like standing out. He was

always a part of he and Chris he and the

other boys, you know this. I mean, he

didn't push anything. He was amazing.

But you knew I I knew just the minute I

worked with him.

>> He, was, such, a, talented, actor.

>> Yes.

>> Did, you, get, to, work, with, him, again?

>> No,, I, never, did., They, used, to, tease, me

because my character's name was

Hunsacker. So they called me the Hun

and they would tease me all the time.

And we lived in this motel, all of us

cuz we were shooting outside of New

York. And he and Chris constantly were

trying to get me to go have booze and

beer in the bar downstairs.

And I would go once or twice, but I was

a big Knicks fan. And so I would sit

there watching the Knicks and they'd be

up at the bar drinking.

>> Yeah., Are, you, a, basketball, fan?

>> I, am.

>> Um, who, what, you're, a, big, sports, fan, in

general?

>> Not, not, hugely., I, played, basketball, in

high school and I loved it. And I

started watching the Knicks when I lived

in New York.

>> Were, you, a, guard?, I, mean,, you, don't, have

the height.

>> I, was, a, guard.

>> I, was, a, guard.

>> You, didn't, have, the

>> I, I, could, have, stopped, anything., I, was

really good at it.

>> That's, cool., Wow., And, and, and, do, you

were you a sporty kid? Were you?

>> Yeah,, I, ran., I, I, was, pretty, good, runner.

And uh the tumbling, you know, that you

do in the gym and I was a cheerleader.

You had to be sort of sporty for that.

>> Yeah.

>> And, um, a, drum, majorette.

>> Yeah.

>> And, they're, all, sort, of, sporty.

It's more or less. And like in your, you

know, 70s, 80s, and 90s

what do you, how do you stay? I mean

you're very physically fit. What do you

do?

>> Uh,, I, do, Pilates

uh once a week for an hour

>> on, the, reformer, or, on, floor.

>> Some, on, that,, but, some, just, stretching

and and weight stuff.

>> Yeah., Um, I, have, two, different, massagers,

masseuses

and um I try to walk. I try not to just

sit all the time. Now you have a you we

spoke a little bit about your late

husband who was an acting teacher and

who taught I thought this was really

wonderful

>> taught, uh, worked, with, Margot

Martenddale's

>> husband, or, and, you, got, you, and, Margot

were neighbors

>> neighbors

>> and, are, still, remain, very, good, friends

>> and, Margot, is, such, a, terrific, actress.

>> She's, heaven

>> and, um, is, this, a, true, story, that, she, got

the script for

>> Nebraska?, Nebraska., Yes,, it, is, true.

What's that story?

>> I, was, coming, out, of, my, apartment, and, she

was coming out of hers and she said

"Hey," she said, "Have you heard about

this new film, Nebraska?" And I said

"No." And she said, "You've got to tell

your agents about it." She said, "You

should be doing this role." And uh she

said "They sent it to me." But she

said, "I'm too young." She said "I

really am too young." And she said

"It's a wonderful role." So that sort of

started it. And so I tal I I talked to

the my agents about it and they kept up

and since I had already done uh about

Schmidt with with Alexander and the

thing was that they didn't Alexander and

the casting director both thought I was

wrong for the for Nebraska. And I said

they think I'm that little lady from

about Schmidt. And that's exactly what

it was. And my agents kept at them to

the point where they finally said

>> "Have, her, send,, you, know,, we'll, send, the

script or send some scenes and have her

send a a uh tape in." So that's what

happened.

>> Wow.

>> And, Alexander, again, said,

>> "The, minute, I, saw, it,, I, knew, you, should

do it." But he said it was so funny

because for about Schmidt he had cast it

>> from, somebody, out, here, and, I, I, was, in

New York and my agents kept pushing me

pushing pushing me. Finally they again

said just tell her to send a tape in.

I'm sure they thought that would be the

and Alexander told me he said I saw that

tape and knew you had to do it. Well, we

do this thing on this podcast where we

have people talk to me before I talk to

the guest and give me a question to ask

>> and, we, kind, of, try, to, talk, well, behind

people's back. So, I was talking with

Will Forte earlier.

>> Isn't, he, the, greatest?

>> I, adore, him.

>> I, know., And, he, and, he, adores, you.

>> Yes.

>> And, he, was, on, set, of, a, new, movie, in, a

trailer and we got him on Zoom to um to

tell us what it was like working with

you and then just to give you a

question. um uh to give me a question to

ask you. Um what was it like working

with Will?

>> Oh,, he's, great., And, he, was, so, scared

because, you know, he kept saying, "I

I'm a comic. I'm a comic." And we all

No, you're an actor now, Will. Just shut

up and do it, you know. And so that, you

know, he was wonderful. He was so great.

Oh, God. And then he he went to can the

first time I went, he and I and Bruce

>> D., Yeah., What, was, it, like, working, with

Bruce?

>> Oh,, Bruce, is, great., This, is, one, hell, of

an actor. He really is a great actor.

>> Yeah,, you, guys, were, great, together.

>> Yeah.

>> Um,, so, Will, wanted, me, to, ask, you,, um,

this was his question for you

and and he wanted me to tell you, June

I love you. Um, I I love everything

about you. Um, what is your favorite

food?

And could you tell us about it in song?

So, no no pressure, Jane.

>> Well,, my, favorite, food, are, papooseas.

I have a I have a cook who's from s one

of the islands that she her mother makes

papooseas for me all the time.

>> Sounds, like, a, good, title, of, a, song.

>> Let, me, see., Papooseas.

Papooseas.

Papoo says, "I love you."

>> Yes.

>> There, Will, Forte, the, one, of, the, lost

songs from South Pacific.

Oh, that's beautiful. Um that's like the

new um um Peaches song that Jack Black

sang. Um

>> so, the, the, other, thing, I, wanted, to, ask

you about is I'm the mother of boys. You

have a son and he is a in the business

too, right? writer, director. Um, what

was it like? You know, uh, you were a

working mother, uh, in the 70s. What was

it like being a working mother in the

70s? It's much different.

>> He, was, born, in, 70s.

>> He, was, born, in, 70., So,, you, were, Yeah.

So, 80s, I guess.

>> The, 80s.

>> What, was, it, like?

>> Well,, by, then, he, was,, I, think,, in, high

school. So, he was pretty, you know, in

New York. He was pretty loose. And

>> Oh,, yeah., You, guys, were, in, New, York.

Yeah.

>> And,, um,

>> do, you, ever, work, together?, Do, you?

>> Yes,, I, did., I, did, some, films, for, him., I

did in New York and out here both.

>> And, um

>> gosh,, he, would, I, don't, know., It, was, just

a little family of three, you know.

>> And, I, went, off,, but, he, had, his, dad, there

always. And um

>> and, you, and, uh, your, ex-husband, Charles

was an acting teacher. Did you work with

him on your stuff? That must have been

really interesting. What did you learn

from him? Well, everything truly because

you know my work as a per as a performer

really in musicals and I mean I

considered myself pretty realistic and

and I was considered one of the more

realistic actors doing musical theater

but u Charlie when I met him and we met

doing a musical in stock and he said you

could be a really fine actress if you

really do what you you're doing.

>> And, he, was, right., I, mean,

>> and, he

I remember going into his class

>> and, it, was, hard, because, I, mean, it, was

like tearing down everything that I

believed or thought I was doing, you

know, and to put something else in

there.

>> And, I, was, crying, and, he, was, yelling, at

me and the c the all the kids in the

class were laughing. They thought, "Oh

this is pretty funny." So, we went

through this awful screaming and yelling

and everything, but I mean truly, I

wouldn't be doing what I'm doing if it

were not for him.

>> Well,, honestly,, it, seems, very

passionate.

>> It, was., I, mean,, he, was, determined,

almost more determined than I was to do

it. He was determined I was going to do

it.

>> That, must, have, been, nice, to, have, someone

in your corner like that. And it was

interesting because I we worked together

then for years and I was auditioning for

a um regional theater a a a script that

I liked a lot and wanted to do and uh he

always helped me at home and I said you

know I I have this audition. He said I'm

not going to help you. And I said no I

need help. And he said no you know what

you're doing. you do it.

>> This, is, very, exciting, foreplay, that

you're talking about

>> and, yeah, and, no, it, wasn't., It, was, like

you know but we kept and then I got the

role and I said you've got to help me.

He refused again. He died about 6 months

later.

>> Wow.

>> And, do, you, think, he, knew?

>> I, think, he, knew, somehow, that, he, had, to

like push me out out of the nest is what

he did.

>> June, that's, wild., He, maybe, he, sensed

something

>> some, I, think, so.

>> So, do, you, feel, like, in, the, early, days

you were kind of dependent on his

>> Oh, very, much, so., Yeah., I, couldn't, I, I

felt you know I couldn't do it if he

didn't help me set me straight.

>> Yeah.

>> And, he, just, and, that, was, he, just, refused

and he never once helped me after that.

>> And, how, old, were, you, when, he, passed?

>> Uh, 99

1999.

>> Right., So,

>> how, old, was, I, have, no, idea.

>> I, mean,, I, can't, do, that., I, mean,, let's

not do it. Let's not even try it. That's

outrageous. And did your you ever um

consider dating or did you date after

that?

>> I, did, date, a, little, bit,, but, I, dated, a

little bit in New York and I dated some

out here.

>> What's, What's, dating, like, in, your, 80s?

>> Uh,, not, very, interesting.

>> It, really, wasn't., Yeah,

>> I, did,, you, know,, no,, nobody, came, along

that really excited me and I was working

all the time, you know, so it just sort

of went by the wayside.

>> Well,, you, know,, and, I, mean,

do you feel like what like I I ask a lot

of my guests this, but you have

friendships now, especially female

friendships that probably, you know

they span many decades. What do they

what have they continue to do for you

even, you know, into your 90s? Well, I

think mentally I think without them I

would, you know, um I need that. I think

you know the the mental push

>> the, mental, excitement.

>> Yeah., Yeah., And, someone, who, kind, of

knows your story.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah., Yeah.

>> And, we, still, I, mean, I, have, two, female

friends that I'm very very close to and

I see them all the time so it's great.

>> Yeah.

Um, what are you what are you doing

right now? What do you listen to, watch

read that makes you laugh?

You know, when you want to laugh, when

you want to check out

>> Well,, I, watch, Saturday, Night, Live, or

what?

>> Do, you?

>> Oh,, yes.

>> Every, week.

>> Not, every, week,, but, a, lot.

>> So, good., Who, are, some, of, your, fave

performers on that show right now?

>> Uh,, I, love, Colin., I, mean,, I, just, think

he's he and Michael Chay together just

knocked me out.

>> But, so, you, like, sketch, comedy.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah., And, I, did, it,, you, know,, so, I

really sort of

>> I, I, have, a, thing., I, understand, it,, you

know.

>> Were, you, a, big, like, uh, What, kind, of

shows did you like in the comedy? Were

you like a Monty Python fan? Were you

>> I, love, Monty., I, liked, laughing.

>> Yeah.

>> Buzzy, was, a, really, good, friend, of, mine.

>> Ruth, Buzzy, was, a, friend, of, yours., We

worked together in reviews in New York

actually in Province Town.

>> Tell, me, about, that., What, was, Ruth, Buzzy

like?

>> Well,, uh,, she, and, I, worked, in, the, same

little group.

>> I, love, that, you, called, her, Buzzy.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah., Sorry.

>> That's, what, everybody, calls.

>> I, didn't, know, that., I, always, called, her

Ruth Buzzy.

>> Ruth, Buzzy.

>> Buzzy.

>> And, um,, so, we, worked, together., We, did, a

ship. We did a a cruise ship together

and we did some nightclubs in New York

together. And then she had gone to

Province Town the year before and they

needed someone the summer coming. It was

a summer job and she suggested me. So

they talked to me and then they hired

me. So we had the whole summer together.

>> Oh,, that's, fun.

>> Yeah., Do, you, ever, watch, The

Neighborhood?

That to me is

>> with, Max, Greenfield?

>> Yes.

>> And, uh, Cedric?

>> Yes.

>> Yes., So, funny.

>> They, are, funny., They're, really, funny.

Max is so funny. And I I used to watch

Cedric the Entertainer.

>> He, used, to, be, part, of, those, like, comedy

Def Jam where there'd be like a bunch of

standups together. And he was so funny.

>> That's, a, good, So, I, I'm, I'm, amazed, at

him. I watch him on the show.

>> Yeah.

>> Because, of, how, he

he knows he's going to do it and it's

comedy, but he's just sort of like I

don't know. He's wonderful. Did you ever

see um that got arrested on stage? Uh

>> oh,, I, know, who, you, mean.

>> Okay,, let's, play, this, game., Let's, see

how long. Okay, I heard that for memory

you shouldn't look things up. You should

try to

>> visualize, putting, Okay,, we're, going to

do it. Putting the um

>> Lenny, Bruce.

>> Bruce

got

Lenny Bruce. Oh

>> I, did, see, him, in, Chicago.

>> I, knew, you, would, see, him., What, was, that

like? Do you remember seeing him?

>> Yes,, I, remember, that, everybody, oh,, you

know, because he would say these things.

>> Yeah,, he, was, an, interesting, guy, and, that

and I mean I think that's had going back

to where we started our conversation.

There's something about I would have

loved to have been and it must have been

so cool to have been in the city during

that time in the 50s and 60s when

everything was just starting to unravel

in an interesting way. You know, I I

keep thinking I can remember being

worried about things and again it passed

and I hope that's what happens with us

now. It too will pass but I don't know.

>> I, don't, know.

>> Well,, I, think, that, is, the, one, thing, that

a long life gives you is you get to see

>> I've, seen, a, lot, pass., Let's, just, say

this.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah., Um,, I, love, our, time, together,

June. Thank you for coming and doing

this.

>> It's, been, so, great., I, I, mean,, I, just, I

think you're such an incredible talent.

>> Thank, you.

>> And, um, I'd, love, to, be, your, friend., And, I

know this is awkward, but I tend to

bully people into being my friend.

>> So,

>> if, you, don't, have, to, bully, me.

>> Okay., So,, if, it's, if, you, would, accept

the invite

>> I, would, love, it.

>> I, would, love, to, be, considerate., I'd, love

for us to be new friends.

>> Yeah.

>> And, I, know, it's, awkward., I'm, asking, you

on this podcast. I mean, what are you

gonna do? Say no. What if June just

hands me June hands me her card and it's

just 555 555.

>> I'll, call, you, next, week.

>> Thank, you, so, much, for, doing, this., This

has been the best. I hope you had a good

time.

>> I, did., I, had, a, great, time., Great.

>> And, I, got, a, mocha.

>> Oh, gosh,, your, mocha., We, didn't, even, sip

it. Sip some of that mocha. It's going

to be watery now.

>> It's, still, good.

>> Thank, you, so, much,, June, Squib,, my, new

best friend. You heard it here. She

can't take it back. Uh we recorded it.

June, you're the best. Uh so such a

great artist and and person. Thank you

so much for coming in. And um June

talked about a lot of exciting musical

theater. So, for today's Polar Plunge, I

just want to just take a moment to say

that Westside Story

was so important to me um as a young

person and that being able to even

picture the original musical uh and

seeing it on stage in its first week or

two that June talked about, I just I

don't know. If you haven't seen the

film, watch it. Um, I'm sure there uh

are productions, local productions

happening right now. Um, the original

film with um with the from the the 60s

is so beautiful and the music is so

beautiful and I'm sure we can't afford

to sing this, but I would like to say

I am

anyway. Thank you for listening.

Um uh and uh see you soon.

>> You've, been, listening, to, Good, Hang., The

executive producers for this show are

Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and me

Amy Polar. The show is produced by The

Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer

production by Jack Wilson, Cat Spelain

Kaia McMullen, and Alia Xanerys. For

Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel

Levelvel, and Jenna Weiss Berman.

Original music by Amy Miles.

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