Cole Escola on Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hello everyone. Welcome to another

episode of Good Hang. Very excited that

we have our guest today, Cole Skola.

Cole is an incredible performer. They

wrote an original play, Oh Mary, which

was a huge hit on Broadway and which

gave them the Tony Award. And we're

going to talk to them about a lot of

things today about Struggling in New

York City. Um we're going to talk about

their love for Martha Stewart. And we're

going to talk about what are they

filling their days and nights with now

that they've stepped away from their

very famous play which is still going on

by the way and which depicts a very

insane Mary Todd Lincoln with zero

research. Highly recommend. Um before we

get started though, we are going to

check in with um someone who knows Cole

um who has a question for them. And that

person is comedy legend, incredible

performer, and just the the funniest the

funniest lady around. Amy Sedaris. Amy,

this is Amy.

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>> Well, first of all, hi. Thank you for

doing this.

>> I'm sure happy to be doing this. We're

talking to Cola Skola today and

your relationship with them is runs

really deep and it's very special and I

think a lot of people um were uh

very very excited that they won the Tony

and very excited to hear your name.

>> I was just as surprised. Yeah, that was

so sweet of Cole to to mention my name.

Maybe because they owe me $5,000. I

don't know. Do you think now where you

are in life, you could do oary?

>> Me? Well, I I was going to say, why

aren't you You should do

>> I don't know if I have the energy

anymore or that schedule. I could I

don't think I could do it, you know,

eight days a week. I mean, I'd like to

for you lose weight, you'd get muscle. I

mean, that aspect live audience, but

man, that's a brutal schedule. That's

for a young person.

>> I was just at a someone's pool the other

day and a little kid challenge us

challenged us to all jump in at the same

time and my ears are still ringing and

it's just from jumping in jumping in a

pool.

>> Yeah, jumping in a pool and I woke up

this morning. I was like, "Oh, I have

like swimmer's ear. Everything hurts."

And all I did was just gently jump into

a pool.

>> Yeah. What did I do? What did I do? And

then you were like, "Oh, wait a minute."

>> Yeah.

>> I know. I was I was thinking about you

because I was thinking I'm sure Cole

would love for you to do Oh, Mary and

you would be perfect in it. But I know

the the schedule is wild.

>> It's too wild. And the whole point would

be to work with

>> Cole,

>> you know. Uh I work really well with

them and and uh that's fun too to

discover that we work really well

together.

>> I know. So tell me about I mean I know a

lot of people saw um them play Chazzy on

your show. So, how did you start working

together?

>> Um, I saw Cole uh orange juice

commercial on YouTube and then I worked

with Cole on your show on on Difficult

People and then I was just looking for a

good neighbor and I was like, it didn't

matter male, female, just like it's got

to be this person. It's got to be Cole

and you know, always came in prepared.

Always came in with lines in their back

pocket. Uh, everyone loved Cole on set.

It makes perfect sense that you two love

to work together and and you know we're

drawn to each other like magnets because

I think the same thing about you Amy

like you're such a real artist and such

a genuine

>> where you going

for listeners Amy just leaned really

close into the camera got really like

I'm off to a flame

>> ping

>> nipples I guess down

>> there's never been anything self in my

opinion about you never been anything

that feels self-conscious or even kind

of aware of um what's kind of expected

of you? And Cole is the same way. And

because of it, your art feels so

specific and satisfying and unique. Um

and

>> Well, that's nice of you to say. Is that

why I'm not working?

>> Mhm.

>> Yeah.

[Laughter]

>> So, you've never done a Broadway show?

>> Uh no.

>> That's nuts. I've never done Broadway.

Off Broadway I've done, but have you?

>> No. No.

>> Okay. Well, sounds like we got to do

something.

>> Oh, that would be something for us.

>> Let's write something where it's just

it's a 45minute show and it starts at 6

p.m. and we sit down the whole time.

>> And wheelchairs. Yeah, I love that. Grab

bars, speed rails, wheelchairs.

So, we've been asking people who know

our guests, who are fans of our guest,

to give me a question to ask them. I

>> I mean, my joke questions always, if you

could have anyone over at dinner, dead

or alive, what would you serve? Because

then you could judge person on what you

would make for these people. But, um,

and also, and I get interviewed a lot,

they'll ask like, "What do we not know

about you?" And that's kind of hard

because one thing about Cole that I

really admire and also about young

people is they're so, you know, they'll

tell you anything. you know, you ask

them a question, they're so honest and

open about it. You're like, "Oh my god,

isn't that private?" Or, you know, like,

"What? Well, what don't we know about

you since you've been telling your whole

life story?" So, that might for me it's

I have high blood pressure. Not high

blood pressure, cholesterol. People

would be surprised to know that about

me. Um,

I always say Cole's an old soul, young

spirit.

>> Um, I have that the joke question and

the lesson. Oh, I was curious after all

this entire journey like if Cole had to

write a memoir right now, like what

would the name of it be?

>> Like this is this is a huge su success

story, don't you think?

>> Totally.

>> That is such a great question for people

who are um

wannabe performers.

This this story of Oh Mary, the story of

the show that Cole wrote, starred in,

and then won the Tony is what is the

best version of writing something for

yourself.

>> Yes.

>> And

>> success story. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Success story. I wonder if there's

going to be a movie if if it would be

really Who would be good in the movie?

It would be like

>> I say get Linda Hunt in there somewhere.

>> Linda. I want more Linda Hunt. Well, I

I'm so fascinated by what's behind you

in your apartment because you have the

best taste.

>> Well, I'm doing a photo shoot in here

today. That's my new miniature dollhouse

that I decided to have built into my

fireplace because I have a lot of

miniatures and so uh just put that

together last night.

>> What's your favorite miniature in that

behind you there?

>> Wheelchair. The wheelchair. It's

wellade. It's handmade. It's beautiful

crutches.

You know that they don't make anymore.

Homemade handmade umbrellas out of

toothpicks.

>> Oo.

>> Yeah, I have a really nice collection.

Bare skin rug.

[Laughter]

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>> Those are the only things you'd grab if

there was a fire. That's it.

>> Yes, you're right.

>> Thanks, Amy. Thanks for your time.

Thanks so much. Great to see you.

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>> Cole, I'm so happy you're here, but I

haven't seen you. I've obviously seen

you on stage and I've seen you on TV and

I've seen you everywhere, but I haven't

seen you in person in a minute. How is

it feeling having just finished your

run? I know we it's we're just catching

you.

>> It feels

uh insane. We kind of joke sometimes

here about like how we always talk about

like hard work and acting is working and

hard work and in many ways it's not that

hard. This is not that hard. No.

>> But what you do is very

>> eight shows a week is really like I used

to think like well you have your days

free.

>> Totally

>> like oh come on. But I um I I I will

never I will never think that way about

Broadway people or theater people ever

again.

>> It is the hardest job.

>> So hard. So hard.

>> And the hardest part of your day is at

the end of your day. So it's like you

can't even enjoy your day.

>> Well, but I slept I I I go to sleep at

like 5:00 a.m.

>> Okay. Talk to me about your sleep.

>> Okay. So, um

>> I love talking about sleep.

>> I'm kind of weird. Yeah, I'm like one of

those quirky kind of people. Um I No, I

mean I do the show. I'm like vibrating

hyper.

>> Um I eat after the show. I have acid

reflux, so I need to wait at least 3

hours.

>> Which one's Is this mine? Is this mine?

Is this mine?

>> Y I just realized that I have that too,

but I didn't really know what to call

it, but it was like Oh, and I would

burning in my throat.

>> I hate that. Pass the marinara, please.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> So, what did you have post show? Was it

a similar meal or different?

>> It was, you know, not a lot's open at

like 10 p.m. So, it it was either um

>> Indian food,

>> which is great for acid reflux cuz it's

very mild, you know.

>> Yeah. Just some cool spices.

>> Just some just some spicy cream sauces.

Um Amy Sedaris always says um hot creamy

meal straight to bed. Um so uh so yeah

that or like a a bowl like okay

>> just slop and the most chaotic bowl

just like adding ingredients not

considering what they will add up to.

>> Yeah. How they're going to marry.

>> I like oranges.

>> So you get your bowl or your food, you

eat and then you would then stay up till

5:00 in the morning. Yeah. Yeah.

>> Just like basically being on your phone

looking

>> on my phone watching YouTube videos. Um

Marco Poloing my friends. Do you use

Marco Polo?

>> Yes. I love Marco Polo. It's the best.

>> I thought that that was a Gen X thing,

but millennials like Marco Polo.

>> Millennials are dipping their toes into

Marco Polo. Gen Z could not be more.

They're they're embarrassed.

>> They're embarrassed. And Gen Alpha don't

have phones.

>> They're like phones are in their heads.

>> Yeah, exactly.

>> They're implanted implanted in their

heads. Yeah, but I I am like kind of

obsessed with the fact that you have

this open spaces like you're wide open

space now.

>> What What are you going to do?

>> To be honest, I was really I was really

like I got good hang on Monday.

>> I'll just That's my next I'll get there

and then we'll figure it out.

>> So So there's a part of you that like

wants that structure and you're going to

have to figure out how to structure.

Yeah.

>> Yeah. I I'm sort of, you know, like um

when you get off of a boat, for those of

you that own boats,

>> like we do,

>> everyone everyone listening owns a boat,

>> you know, when you get off your boat

>> um one or one of your boats, when you

get off your biggest boat

>> and you you're like you're you're

wobbly, your sea legs. That's how I

feel.

>> I used to say that about SNL, like leave

SNL was like a train pulling away.

>> Yeah. and you kind of like all the

gravel kicked up and it sped away and

you could kind of hear the the chatter

and the laughter

>> and also you were kind of like like glad

you weren't on the train. Both those

things

>> because for people who don't know Omary

is continuing on without you.

>> Yes. Titus Burgess starts tonight.

>> Wow.

>> Again. Yeah.

>> Right.

>> He did it for 3 weeks and now he's back

for six. And then after that,

>> Jinx Monsoon.

>> And then after that, you haven't

announced yet.

>> We don't even know yet.

>> So, what is it like to create a

character?

>> Good.

>> Yeah. Great.

>> But I mean, how do you do you pick who's

going to do it? And I'm sure you're at a

point now where people are

>> emailing you and saying, "I would like

to do it. Much must be interesting." I

bet you're thinking about people who

want to do it.

>> What is that process like?

>> It was doing it. Uh, you know, the first

it it really started after the first

replacement, which was Betty Gilpin, who

took this part and this job so

seriously, like trained for it and and

and like

and I I I think people weren't lining up

to take over the role yet cuz they

wanted to sort of see like how it would

go if someone else did it. and she was

like brave enough to be like, "No, I

know this would be like the role of a

lifetime for me, so I want to jump at

it." And she was incredible.

>> Yeah.

>> And it felt like really validating to

watch,

I don't know, someone

love the part.

>> Well, you're playing a a version of Mary

Todd Lincoln based on no research.

>> Yes. And um it's this um torto force. Uh

it it that part allows whoever is

playing it to uh like swing for the

fences.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> And it's what I love, if I may, what I

love so much about it and loved and I

saw you only you in it, but and I can't

wait to see more people in it, but

>> what I loved about it is it was like

this place where you could go really

really big, but it was very it was very

moving.

>> Oh, thanks. really moving. It's hard to

do both of those things.

>> I think you do those things both of

those things really well together.

>> Thanks. I Yeah, I I that was my goal was

like to

>> like I I even wrote it on my dressing

room mirror like um can you love me if

I'm annoying?

>> Oh,

>> like that's good.

>> Yeah.

>> Can you root for someone who's annoying?

That's what I wanted cuz you know

>> Yeah.

>> I I'm sure you feel this way too. like

I'm annoying, you know, I'm too much.

>> Yes.

>> Yeah.

>> That is in fact uh a friend of mine has

a a game where she says boring or

annoying.

>> So you categorize people into boring or

annoying. Both are No one wants to be.

>> No one wants to be either.

>> That's a good one.

>> Give me annoying over boring.

>> Absolutely.

>> Any day.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Give me someone who tries

too hard.

>> Of course.

>> Yeah. Absolutely. And I'm I'm in the

annoying camp. And

>> it

>> So what I'm hearing is because the show

has ended, this is like an existential

nightmare for you.

>> Yes.

>> Yeah. Got it.

>> Yeah.

>> It would be for me, too. It would be

like it's just like what do I do with my

day? What is my life? And you've hit you

hit the peak. You got the Tony. Like

there's nowhere to go but down, babe.

>> I know. Truly down or or or like AC like

leave the business. Yeah. Across.

>> Like just jump in a river and

>> Yeah. You're just going to work with

animals.

>> Change my name. Yeah. Don't bring my

phone.

Like burn my fingerprints off.

>> Did you feel I hope you felt this way,

but I I know collectively people that

were watching you win

>> were really angry.

>> Really angry.

>> They were. Yeah.

>> I mean, did you There was riding in the

streets.

>> Yeah, I saw

>> it was like when the Eagles won the

>> the what?

>> Sorry, that's for the for the guys. For

the dads. For the dads who listen.

Um, no, but you but you when you won it

felt like people it felt like you were

carrying the hopes and dreams of a lot

of people.

>> Okay. Well,

>> did you feel that pressure at all when

you

>> pressure? I felt like um the the best

part of the whole experience was like

people that I used that I have been

performing with for like 15 years at

like Joe's Pub or the Duplex or like

>> or people that came to see the shows

like

>> so happy for me like that was the best

feeling like

>> I scored a goal for the team you know.

>> Yeah. Everyone felt invested in it cuz

they felt like they were part of it and

they saw it when it was smaller and then

getting bigger and growing and it felt

like this like

>> you know it was a rare combination your

show Mary of feeling indie and small and

private and just for you and the entire

Broadway community and um it the entire

country coming and feeling the same way

too. It was a wild combo of both those

things.

>> The whole country came

>> the whole

>> We looked at the numbers

>> the numbers.

>> Yeah. Wow. There was like

>> even like South Dakota.

>> Yeah. There were four people in South

Dakota who like

>> said they were going to come.

>> Yeah. And they still might. They still

might. But uh yeah, now it's time to go

away, I think.

>> Okay. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Take a little break.

>> Oh, I like if I'm sick of me, I can only

imagine how my friends feel.

>> I know that nobody actually knows who I

am, but the people who do,

>> they've had a lot of me this past year.

But I got to say, you have handled it

pitch perfect, Cole. Like, you've been

so funny.

Like, super funny. Like

self-deprecating, but not

>> like falsely modest. You've been in like

it really feels like you've been

stealing the

>> Oh my god.

>> I just No. I'm

>> now you're ruining it.

to work with people that you respect and

>> like this is my job. I get to play.

>> I get to play. I get to come here and

this is this is my work. Like who am I

to complain?

I'm so lucky. I'm so lucky.

>> Like I don't even remember who got

nominated. Like the award is not the

thing.

>> No. And we were like we were all rooting

for each other, you know?

>> The best part has been getting to know

people. I actually hate when they called

my name. My heart broke.

>> I thought George Clooney like

>> like like

my friend

>> my friend my friend George.

>> Now he's going to Lake Como without this

trophy.

>> And that's like

>> I get to have it. So I sent it to him. I

sent it.

>> I did.

>> You did?

>> I did.

>> And you sent it from the heart.

>> I sent it from the heart. Or I sent him

a picture of it.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> With my finger. Yeah.

>> Yeah. You're not going to give him the

real no

>> no he doesn't deserve it's too many.

>> Um and famous you you ran up there

famously. You really hustled up there.

Wow.

>> They they tell you you have 90 seconds

from when they call your name to the end

of the speech.

>> So crazy.

>> So I was like I want to talk for as long

as possible. That's my

>> that was your goal.

>> That was it's always been my goal.

>> Like when I was a kid and they would ask

like oh what song do you want to sing? I

would sing the 12 Days of Christmas

because it was the longest song that I

knew.

And um still the longest song. Uh but so

I I was just like, well, I want to be

able to thank everyone that I had in my

head cuz I didn't write anything down

stupidly.

>> Such a good speech.

>> Um

>> such a good speech.

>> But I left so many people out.

>> But that's okay because what you did is

like I think you learn a lot about

somebody when they give a speech because

to your point, you were aware of the

time.

>> Yeah. you were trying to use it to your

advantage.

>> It's shocking to me how many people get

up there and they go like

>> anyway and you're like time is ticking.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> I can't believe you are taking so much.

>> It's also that thing that I think it was

on this podcast that Tina said to you

about like that Steve Martin said. So

this is like you got to kill every time.

>> Yes.

>> It's like I I do feel that.

>> Yes. You have to be funny and you have

to be gracious, but you have to be like

you have to produce that moment.

>> Yeah.

>> And you've produced it really well.

>> Thanks. Played a good game and uh we

just feel really good about where we're

at right now. Uh numbers wise. Um just

got to stay in it and um hope for the

best.

>> Now I heard this straight straight

character you did on Coar. Yeah.

>> Do you have a straight a straight woman

my age voice?

>> Your age? No, just older.

>> Okay. like a boomer woman.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like my like my

mother.

>> Yeah. What is What is that kind of

character?

>> Well, I'm a little bit um horse, so my

voice is a little lower than I'd like

it, but um we were going to go up um

Saturday and just see what Tracy and

them were going to cook and just sort of

just nothing. For people who can't see,

Cole is

>> touching their head a lot.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> And and and you're right, just a little

agrieved and a tiny like a tiny

headache.

>> Yeah. Tiny tiny headache just thinking

about um just like talking I that's my

favorite. I mean, when I was growing up,

just hearing

small talk

>> between women at the store was my

just heaven.

>> Well, you primarily by women.

>> Yeah. Yeah. By my mother and my

grandmother and I loved my grandmother's

friends and, you know, complaining about

health issues.

>> Okay. But you grew up in Oregon.

>> Thanks. And

and that's not that's not I'm not trying

to make you feel bad.

>> No. What uh you grew up in Oregon. You

got into community theater. You made

your way to New York.

>> Yeah.

>> What was like the fir Like can you just

paint a picture of when you first

arrived in New York City? How old?

>> 18. Yeah. I mean fresh from my like

hometown, you know. And then the first

place I lived was the 92nd Street Y on

the Upper East Side.

>> Now imagine an 18-year-old

little gay kid coming to New York City

and that is their first impression of

New York, the Upper East Side, thinking

like "Wow

>> wow.

>> I can't wait to have fun."

>> Old men.

>> Old men. Wow. Oh, wow. These restaurants

close at 6:00 p.m. This is amazing.

>> Yeah. And what how why did you end up

over there?

>> I went to um we can bleep the name of

the school out.

>> Okay.

>> Um for one year, one calendar year

>> and um their dorms were at the

>> And why did you drop out of college?

>> Couldn't afford it?

>> Like I couldn't even afford to take out

any more loans.

>> Was that was that a stressful? Were you

thinking like this is a nightmare that I

can't

>> heart? No, no, no. I was heartbroken. I

was like, I didn't know how I was going

to get back to New York cuz I sort of

figured this out. The first summer I

came back home, I was working at a

church camp with my brother, mowing

lawns, digging post holes, washing

dishes, and um and uh then I found out

like they're they're not going to give

you any more loans cuz you don't have

unless you have a a guarantor,

>> right? And all the adults in my life

were poor.

>> Y

>> and I hated them for that. I was like,

it was so juvenile to be like,

>> well, maybe if you'd make better life

choices mom

I could live out my dreams. And now I'm

like, thank God I don't have student

loans.

>> Yes,

>> I don't have student loans because I

couldn't afford to go to school.

>> I mean, rejection is God's protection.

>> Thank you. You I love when you came up

with that.

>> Say that. I came up with that.

I remember when you came.

>> What did you do though at 19 then? You

just worked hard and

>> Yeah, I went I worked uh at the

Scholastic bookstore playing Clifford

the Big Red Dog. Um Wow.

>> And uh I mean I worked at the cash

register as well, but that was I really

came alive when I played Clifford,

you know. Uh but

>> And you were living with who then? Like

were you like renting a room from

>> renting a room um in in a railroad

apartment where a complete stranger had

to walk through my room to get to his

bedroom.

>> Sure.

>> And often like my I had like one season

of Sex in the City on DVD and he would

always I would I was always missing one

disc and then it would appear back the

next day and then it would disappear and

>> he took it.

>> He took it. It was a straight guy and he

was like jerking off to it. Oh,

>> sex episodes.

>> And this was like I mean this was what

year? 2008.

>> Mhm.

>> So porn was available online.

>> Yeah, he could have. But

>> but there was just something

>> there's something about Kim Catrol, I

guess, that just

>> probably that Hey, I get it. Hey, I get

it. Hey, I get it.

>> We both do.

>> We both get it.

>> Um, when did you first get paid to be an

actor? Uh,

>> other than Clifford, but

>> well, but my first paying job was when I

was 11.

>> Really?

>> I was in uh like a regional production

of The Grapes of Wrath. I made $50

>> total.

>> Total.

>> Okay.

>> Yeah.

>> Y

>> I played Winfield Jode.

>> Okay.

>> I My lines were um

Ma Ma, look over there.

>> Great. Yeah,

>> that's

>> $50. $50.

>> But I did come up with um um I've said

this already to Mo Rocka. I'm sorry for

those of you

>> God. Then we're going to cut it.

>> If you've already put it on Rocka,

>> but I think you'll appreciate this. At

11, I came up with there's a scene where

everyone's like saying grace over food

and I came up with stage business of

like opening my eye and stealing a piece

of food.

>> Oh my god. Yeah, I I have a a similar

story which is when I was about that

age, 10 or 11, I was Dorothy in the

Wizard of Oz.

>> And I have to

>> Great comedic part by the way.

>> Hilarious.

>> So many laughs.

>> And they because it was the '8s, they

just gave us a real dog. They were like,

"Hold this real dog." You know, it was

just someone's dog. And I had the dog

the whole day and no one fed it. And it

was and I would never do that now,

>> but someone just gave us a dog. I was

10. And there's a moment where Dorothy

says like the where the tornado starts

and Dorothy says, "Toto, Toto, where are

you?"

>> Yeah.

>> And in the first show, I was holding

Toto and I got a laugh, but not the kind

I wanted.

>> Right. Right.

>> They were laughing at me.

>> Yeah. And did you And you clocked that

right away.

>> I clocked it. So in the second show, I

put the dog down and I walked a few feet

away from it and then I said, "To Toto,

where are you?" And everyone was like,

"Now that's clever."

And it was like a star is born. But it's

so true that that feeling when you're

like, "Wait, I can do something else."

The mischief part.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, did you feel like

>> uh was there ever a time where you were

like, "Well, I don't want to be an actor

cuz it's not fun." Because the way I

felt was like, oh,

being a performer means, you know,

acting school and doing our town. And I

was like, I don't think that's for me,

so I guess I don't want to perform.

>> Mhm. I think, yeah, I didn't know anyone

who was an actor or like I didn't think

it was a job

>> that I could do. Um,

>> but I think even from a very early age,

I was like, whatever I want to do, I

want to be in control of it.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> So, like I I wasn't good at auditions.

>> Yeah.

>> Because it was like I don't know if if

you don't

>> No, I I whenever I get sides, I'm like,

"Oh, you know who should get this?"

>> Exactly.

>> God. And I call my manager and I'm like,

"Are they seeing Gideon for this? How

about Taylor Trench? Cuz he would nail

this."

And also uh uh as a writer I feel like

I don't I need to know I need to really

trust the writer to to or or like feel

like

>> I really understand the right cuz I

think so much of acting you have to be a

little delusional and be like

>> oh yeah I know how to do this.

>> Yeah,

>> I know what they're going for. When I

read a script, I'm like, "Oh, I'd love

to sit down with the writer and sort of

see why now why is she saying this?"

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> I know. You have to You have to Yeah.

You just have to kind of overcome

insecurity and just assume that everyone

is supposed to be looking at.

>> I actually know how to do this more than

the writer knows.

>> Yeah. I I struggle with it all the time

about like working for other

>> We've We've all witnessed that. We've

watched you on sets sort of

>> floundering

and we're all just come on girl come on

come on

get those lines out

>> that would be a great scene where you're

acting and you pan to the other side of

the monitor and everyone's like girl

>> sweating sweating sweating

>> you can do it girl

>> we work together on a show called

Difficult People. Speaking of great

writers, Julie Clausner

>> and Billy Iikner and Scott King. And we

were all working together on a show and

that was a lot of fun.

>> That was so much fun. That was like and

and that was a situation where like

>> I trusted Julie completely and like

>> the character was I I just got it

immediately.

>> And the character was

>> Matthew, this um basically demon twink.

>> Yeah.

>> Um

>> Yeah.

a full of himself musical theater um

villain.

>> Yeah, he's

>> like gay villain.

>> Um in a way that like

like the way that like you you said,

"Oh, you understand you you have a love

for for women. Julie has a love for

awful gay guys."

>> Yes.

>> Yeah.

>> Totally. She

>> a deep love and respect for

>> a deep love and respect for she is so

good at writing

>> that um those kind of characters that

you you know you're kind of rooting for

and also afraid of.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> At the same time like you don't want to

leave the room while they're around.

>> They'll destroy you.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. That was a really good experience.

>> Yeah.

>> And um and I feel like

>> God, we had so many laughs.

>> We

This is what I'm saying. Like we just

get to play and

>> we get to play.

>> Yeah.

>> I mean, but it's also hard. It's hard

work.

>> It is. But it's like so rewarding, too.

And it's like

>> like when I think of like, you know,

like where I came from and like what my

parents did to like how dare I complain,

you know? How dare I, you know?

>> And someone's like, "Ma'am, your coffee

is ready. I'm just trying to hand you

your coffee. I didn't I just asked you

if this was your coffee."

>> Thank you. I appreciate it. I won't be

tipping, but thank you. Yeah.

>> Okay. So, you have a um

>> You know who I heard doesn't tip? No,

I'll tell you later.

>> I'm just kidding.

>> Did you have you ever raided tables?

>> I was in the restaurant.

>> I was a buser.

>> And then I worked I was a I worked at a

bakery. I was a counter person.

>> I feel like you would be very good front

of house.

>> I'm not cuz I don't

>> uh Well, I So, I also did sex work.

Breaking news. And that was

>> And that's front of house.

>> That's front of house. That's all house.

That's

>> That's front and back.

>> Front and back of house.

>> Of house.

>> Mhm.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Price difference. You

>> What do you want? You want the front of

house or the back of house tonight? 50

50 bucks for the back of house.

>> And you do a whole thing where you

pretend that they weren't they didn't

you didn't have a reservation for them.

And if you had your name's not on the

list.

>> This is not on the list.

>> Check again.

>> Sorry. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Um

>> that was way way way way less

demoralizing than

service job.

>> Yes.

>> Like

>> because a sex work I was in control

>> like I named my price. I it was also

like the money for the time spent was

way

>> you know making $100 in an hour and you

know this was two this was a different

time. Okay.

>> This was a long time ago. That was a lot

of money back then. Okay.

That was a lot of money back then. This

is pre- Tony.

>> This is pre- Tony. Okay. So, I couldn't

charge what I could charge now.

>> Now I could get it easy. 140.

>> Of course. That Tony B.

>> Yeah, please. The Tony bump.

Uh, but like that versus making

$10 an hour,

>> having people yell at you because their

chocolate cake is dry. What I'm learning

is like control, creative control,

especially control of your time,

structure is very important to you.

>> And therefore, you use all of those like

>> I use people.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> I use people.

>> That's the only thing we're going to

pull from this is you saying, "I use

people." And we're going to put it on a

loop like a boomerang.

>> Just like keep injecting it

>> throughout the whole episode.

>> And why is that? Seven times. I use

people. Um, it's going to be like a

Howard Stern clip that we play over and

over again that Fred presses a button

and then it goes I use people. Um, no.

Um, but you took all the strength to

make the show that you made because it's

like you created I mean it is so hard to

write a show and you've done a few of

them.

>> Yeah. I've been in New York for 20 years

this year.

>> Yeah.

>> And um I probably started writing and

performing like my third year here. So

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> I know. It's it's

>> and I just couldn't be more grateful for

like

>> cuz that experience it's like I look

back on it. Wait wait wait. I just want

to say like

>> keep going.

>> Keep going. If you're out there

>> and you're thinking is it going to

happen for me? It will.

>> It absolutely will.

>> Sir, we got your test results back

>> and I've been trying to tell you.

>> Thank you so much.

>> I need to We really need you to see a

doctor.

Um but but but what I want so I talked

So when you um when you thanked Amy

Sedaris

>> Yeah.

>> that was a big deal for a lot of people

>> um

>> and and it was and you thanked many

people in your speech and for people

that know Amy Sedaris's work. what it

felt like was um

I I can't explain it other than this

genuine moment of a friend who was there

for you and you thanked a lot of your

friends who were there for you for a

long time.

>> Yeah,

>> that's really it was really special to

to feel that.

>> I Yeah, I I really want I I thought like

who do I want to hear from the next day?

M

>> like who like like John and Claude like

all of my friends that I thanked were

like what

they sent me a picture of their like

jaws hanging open like I you I can't

believe you thanked me but like I like

my friends are my the most important

people in my life and I would you know

what am I going to like you know pull up

some corny ass teacher from sorry You've

never had a teacher?

>> I've never had a teacher.

>> Not once. You've never had a teacher.

You brag about that.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> No, but but also you saying that that's

so that's so interesting that you say

that, who do you want to hear from?

Because

>> also when you mention Amy and and John

and and Jeffrey and Claudia, like you're

also like sending a signal of like this

is the kind of artist I am cuz those

kind of artists, Amy specifically,

>> Sedaris, you know, who when I when I

came to Chicago, she was the senior like

she was on stage. She was queen bee

>> and um

>> she like you had this true artist vibe

which was like they they they they make

commercial work that people will love

but they're making it for themselves.

Like there's not a feeling of what

should we do that's going to work or was

interesting. It's just like I just want

to do what me and my friends will think

is good.

>> And we talked to Amy before this

podcast.

>> Oh boy.

>> Let me have some Coke Zero. Mhm.

>> Uh-huh.

>> And she loves you and talked about how

um thrilling it was to hear her name and

how she was watching with everybody

>> and it was very exciting. And your

appearances on her show were so stupid

and funny.

>> Yeah. Thanks.

>> Incredible wigs on that show.

>> Oh my god. The best. Yeah.

>> Amy is such an expert on wigs and I I'm

sure you are at this point, too.

>> I've I've given up a little bit.

>> Okay. Okay. How uh do you I'm sure you

know how to put on your own wig. For

people who don't know how to put on

their own wig, what are some tips?

>> Honestly, some people just don't have a

face for wigs.

>> And I have the perfect face for wigs.

>> You do have a great face for wigs.

>> I look I'm not saying I'm stunning.

>> You are stunning.

>> I'm But I'm not saying that.

>> Okay.

>> You said it.

>> Okay.

>> I'm not saying, you know, I I have a lot

of faults. My teeth don't match. None of

them look like they belong together, but

my face is perfect for wigs. And I can

admit that

>> it is. Every single wig changes your

face.

>> Thank you.

>> And every single time you put on a wig,

>> I just feel lucky that I get to do it.

>> Sorry. Sorry.

>> It's just uh it's play.

>> It's play. It's play. Like it's my my

job is to play.

>> Like are you kidding?

>> I show up. Are you kidding me? Every day

I'm like pinch me like

>> ew ew ew.

Yeah.

>> Yeah. But I mean Yeah. Oh,

>> but okay. So, you do Amy's show.

>> Uhhuh.

>> You thank her at the Tony's.

>> And she had a couple questions for you.

Great questions. Of course, cuz it's Amy

Genius.

>> She had two questions. The first one

was,

>> uh, if you could have a dinner party for

anyone

alive or dead,

>> what would you serve?

>> Um, I hate cooking.

>> Oh,

>> well, I hate doing dishes.

>> Yeah.

>> And

>> Mhm.

>> I'm also someone who if the recipe says

like it takes an hour and 15 minutes, I

need 4 hours. Yeah,

>> cuz I'm

I'm taking I'm doing every step like

four times in my head, repeating it back

to myself,

>> Marco Poloing a friend, explaining it to

them like taking notes on that. What I'm

going to Yeah, taking notes on that

Marco Polo.

>> Um I would make um uh mashed potatoes.

>> A big bowl of it.

>> Big bowl of mashed potatoes.

>> And who would be at your dinner party?

>> Um

>> I know it's a hard question. Yeah.

>> The dead alive or dead part.

>> Okay. Martha Stewart. Oh, but then I

wouldn't want to

>> But you'd want her when she was dead.

>> I would want her dead. Yeah.

>> Half dead. Dying.

>> I would want to serve cold mashed

potatoes to dying Martha Stewart.

>> That makes sense.

>> That's my dream dinner party.

Her last bite. I would get to say like,

you know, I served Martha her last bite.

>> Yes. And she was like,

>> Mhm.

>> cold.

you know, she I was obsessed with Martha

as a child.

>> I was um her her show from the '9s, you

know, where it was like in her home

>> and she would be like, "While the pie is

baking, let's um retile the roof."

>> It was like she just assumed like, "You

can do it. There's time."

>> Yeah.

>> It takes 45 minutes for the pie. That's

plenty of time for the roof.

>> That's the best thing about waspy

energy, which I never knew growing up. I

wasn't around it. And when I when I was

finally around it in college, I couldn't

believe how much the women got done in a

day.

>> Yeah.

>> It was a lot of mucking about and

getting things done.

>> She's in a cranberry bog, you know,

while her steak's marinating.

>> Yeah, she's doing it.

>> She's really doing it. And then but I

would I would I was I loved her show so

much and I wanted

>> to be like a Connecticut Wasp, you know,

but um

>> I would spend all my birthday money on

Christmas decorations

>> because I wanted to, you know, copy her

>> cuz Christmas was the most important

holiday.

>> Christmas is the most important holiday.

But um I I met her

>> a year ago

at this little dinner

>> and we were sitting we were alone at a

table cuz no one else had sat down yet.

And I'm like don't talk to her. Leave

her alone. She doesn't need to know you

know how much she means to you. And she

just looks over at me and she goes are

you Mary?

And I was like um yeah. and she's like,

"I haven't seen the show yet, but I love

history and I I I'm dying to see the

show." She hasn't come, but it it's fine

because

>> that's I have that I have the the mo I

have the memory of her looking at me

from across the table and saying, "Are

you married?"

>> It was like Yeah.

>> Anyway, so yeah, that's to answer the

question, I would serve her dying body.

>> Dying Martha Cole Mash. Yeah. Um, do you

uh, this may this leads me to this

question, which is you have so many

people have come to your show.

>> Yeah.

>> And you're a big fan of a lot of the

people that came to your show. Who are

who stands out as people that like was

like, "Wow, I can't believe they're

here."

>> Uh, well, Rosie O'Donnell was big for me

because I would run home after school

every day to watch her show and that's

like that was my only avenue to seeing

Broadway performers. Um,

>> was her show, you know. Um,

>> that was big. Elaine May.

>> Yes,

>> that was huge. Uh

uh that's it. Everyone else could [ __ ]

off for all I care.

>> Get out of here.

>> Get out of here.

>> Yeah,

>> but you would greet people after your

show's so tiring.

>> Oh, I love it.

>> You do?

>> I do. I do. Maybe because I wrote it.

>> Yeah.

>> So, it's like it feels from me. So it it

if maybe if I was just doing just acting

in someone else's show, I'd be like,

"Can I please just go home?"

>> I felt a little codependent when I got

the chance to see you after your show.

And I felt a little codependent about

like taking up your time cuz I just felt

I know, but you were so generous and I

was like, "Wow, Cole's being so generous

with their time after the show because I

just felt like, oh, you must be so

tired. You have to get to bed." But now

I know you had hours before you would

sleep.

>> Hours before I would sleep. And also

like the thing

people after the show are like like I'm

I know you hear this a lot but you're

I'm like I don't it's never enough. A

we're not performers because like you

know what I'm fulfilled.

I don't need any more validation at all

now. I just do it for you.

>> No. And also like

>> every show I'm I'm working my ass off.

like

>> I I want to hear after every show

feedback, you know?

>> Um Yeah. And so I would I would I'm sure

the stage manager and director were so

sick of me. I would be like

just like I would come off stage gasping

for notes being like, "Scene three. I

know I didn't get there. I know I didn't

get there, but I I I I think I stuck the

landing at four, right?" They'd be like,

"Yeah, it was a good It was the show. It

was the show. You've done it 500 times.

It was just like the rest of them. But

>> but that's the way to keep it fresh is

like you're just constantly tweaking it.

Yeah. And and um uh the other question

Amy Sedaris had was if you were to write

a memoir

>> of your, you know, past year and a half

and you had to title it today, what

would it be called?

>> Enough already.

>> Enough.

>> Enough already. My Year on Broadway The

Hard Way.

A story of love and redemption.

>> Still going.

>> Keep going.

>> Love

>> through the eyes of someone who's seen

it all and lived to talk about it. Or

>> or slash

>> enough already.

>> Bits and bobs.

>> Okay. I have a few quick lightning round

questions to ask. Okay.

What is your um uh And this is just fun.

These are just this is just

>> these are just for fun. Okay. I can

relax now.

>> Now I thought it was very serious.

>> Yeah. I felt really

>> Yeah.

>> sick.

>> Yeah. The the the earlier stuff we do

have to send to the government, but this

we can just keep for ourselves.

>> Oh, there honey, too late. They're

listening.

>> Well, let me ask you this. Have you ever

sent the wrong text?

>> Oh, yeah.

>> It's the worst nightmare. I've sent

there was someone that I had a crush on

who I was very attracted to and I went

to send a picture of him to my friend.

>> Yeah.

>> But instead I sent him a picture of

himself.

>> Yeah.

>> Um and then quickly

was like

I think I said something like I love

this shirt. Like where'd you get it?

Just sweating bullets.

>> Yeah. Oh yeah. Have you ever sent a

screenshot of convo

>> similarly like a screenshot and then

sent it to the person?

>> No. No, I don't think I've done that.

I've almost done that and I you know

I've I've definitely heard tell

>> and I Yes. And I've tried to cover it by

being like

>> can you see this?

>> I said things saying wait can you can

you read this? as if something as if

something was wrong with my phone and I

was testing my phone.

>> Well, now I know you got to cut this out

because yeah, eight of your friends

right now are like,

>> "Can you see this picture,

>> [ __ ] I really thought she was going."

>> And they're like, "Yeah, I do." And

you're like, "Oh, good." Cuz my phone

has been weird and I'm trying to figure

out if my p if my screenshots work.

>> Let's get lunch, please.

>> Anyway, love you. Love you. Great. So

happy you're back with that guy.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Okay. So, what is your go-to? Do you use

eBay or

>> Yes.

>> What's your go-to search term? What do

you search eBay for?

>> The I guess my most used word is

vintage.

>> Yeah. Or I'll just type in an actress's

name and then sort by price highest

first

>> to get the highest price.

>> Well, yeah. Cuz that's what's going to

be, you know, like, oh, this was her

couch.

>> That's smart. That's how I've, you know,

I have Marina Dietrich's library card.

Okay.

>> You do?

>> Yes. I've talked about this. I I told

Mo. I told You know this, Amy. Come on.

>> You already told Mo this.

>> I told I told everyone.

>> Um

>> and um Oh, by the way, that reminds me,

beautiful homage to Bernardet Peters.

You dress beautiful. Beautiful. And you

heard from Bernardet. Yes.

>> Yeah. Yeah. And and that was the most

beautiful I've ever felt. Well, she

said, um, I thought they looked

absolutely lovely, although when I wore

it, I wore my chest hairs in a different

pattern.

>> Perfect.

>> But more importantly, congrats, Cole, on

the Tony. Yeah,

>> what a very class act.

>> Why is Bernardet Peters important to

you?

>> I mean, as a kid, she just was Broadway,

you know, like, and um I don't know. Uh

just I just she's she's show business.

You know,

>> my dad used to say like make a joke.

He'd be like, "The only person I would

leave your mother for is Bernardet Pe."

>> That's I now the term.

>> Why are you telling me this?

>> This is weird.

>> Picking me up from my my soccer game.

>> Like not letting you like putting his

hand on the door before you like you're

about to leave. is like, "Wait,

the only person I would leave your

mother for is Bernardet Peters.

Have a good day at school." You're like,

>> "I'm six.

>> I'm six. I'm trying to go to sleep.

You're whispering this. You're

whispering this into my ear."

>> Um, Julie Clausner is the one that I

first heard the term um, a little

something for the dads when she was

doing on her podcast a Tony's recap of

Aladdin. Uh Aladdin had performed at the

Tony's and you know they had the sort of

like you know the girls sort of like

shimmying and she said like oh you know

a little something for the dads to show

like hey Broadway is not just for you

know the women and those gay guys we got

a little something for you too fellas

and I feel like Bernardet is you know

she's got a little something for the

dads

>> she has a little something for the dads

she does it works for the dads gorgeous

okay but uh

>> lightning Yeah, lightning round. Sorry.

Sorry. Not doing this fast enough.

>> No, me.

>> If you could cast a modern-day

politician as Mary Todd Lincoln, who

would it be?

>> Lindsey Graham

>> would probably, you know, he'd probably

learn a lot about himself.

>> That's right.

>> Pro He might like wake up and be like,

>> it would hard to get him.

>> Oh my god. Is that what he sounds like?

>> Yeah. Oh my god.

>> Oh my god.

>> Oh my god. Mary, that's what he would

call it.

>> I've been so bad.

>> I'm sure sorry everybody.

You know, playing this part has taught

me that it's not okay to judge lest ye

be judged.

>> I've been so bad.

>> I better quit. But I'm not going to. I

extended my run.

I'm so bad. I hope I don't get spanked

for it.

>> I bet one of you uh men better not spank

me and I better not pay you to do it.

>> And I don't like to be chased either

before I get Okay. Um who would what

about what about a a famous actor uh who

would play the the uh the role of Omary

in a in a dramatic film?

I'm sure you've thought about this. I

bet there's talks about making a movie.

>> If there are, honey, I'm out of it. I'm

out of it.

>> Amy Sedara suggested uh Linda Hunt.

>> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Linda Hunt.

Absolutely.

>> Incredible.

>> Cherry Jones could do it.

>> Oh, Cherry Jones.

>> Cherry. She could play Lincoln, too.

That would be really

>> She would be amazing as Lincoln. Or

Yeah. A Muppet.

>> Or a Muppet.

>> Miss Piggy as Mary Todd Lincoln. And

then everyone else is human.

That's a great idea.

>> Yeah. Actually, cut this because I'm

gonna I'm talking to Disney tomorrow.

It's not Disney. Is it Disney?

>> I think they're Disney now.

>> Did the Disney

>> Can we guys Can we look that up?

>> I hope they had good lawyers cuz those

Muppets don't know what they're signing.

>> No, I don't. Yeah.

>> Um,

>> that's the one that you turned. Okay.

>> Oh, Jesus.

>> Do you believe in psychics? Do you go to

psychics? Have you ever had a psychic

tell you anything that came true?

>> I I I always quasi believe astrology and

all that sort of stuff.

>> I actually don't believe it. Right.

>> I'm a Sagittarius. Okay.

>> Virgo moon.

>> Gemini rising.

>> Okay.

>> Mhm.

>> I I don't know much about it either, but

I am a Virgo. That's my sun sign.

>> And

>> you don't know your rising?

>> My rising is Aquarius.

>> Okay. And my moon is Leo.

>> Of course.

>> Of course. Had to go there.

>> Favorite New York restaurant?

>> Ooh, Uncle Gino's.

>> Is that real?

>> No.

Um. Uh.

Sunday

5:00 p.m. before the dinner rush.

getting that corner table at Uncle

Gino's. Ask for Gino. Um, ask Yeah, he's

always there. Like, he's always there

Sundays early.

>> Get the corner table and just sit and

people watch. I love to just sit and

have and eat my pasta and just sort of

people watch cuz you know

>> actors we absorb. Sorry. ABC. ABC is my

real answer.

>> Okay, great. What What is that?

>> It's the uh you know ABC kitchen.

>> Yeah. They have a vegetarian vegan

restaurant.

>> Are you vegan?

>> I am. I was vegan and then I started

eating eggs last year cuz I was so

hungry from the shows.

>> Yeah, of course you need your protein.

>> I was for some reason I was just craving

eggs like a snake.

>> You're lucky you're not a a 50year-old

woman because we need like 47 g of

protein a day.

>> Do you really? Or else your bones just

like crumble.

>> You turn into a bag of dusty bones. We

have to eat 45 eggs a day. God.

>> And then lastly, if you had to choose

just one cult to be in,

>> what would you how would you design your

cult and where and what would be your

>> like if I was the cult leader?

>> Well, great question. Would you like to

be in it or would you like to lead it?

>> I would like to be like the the first

lady of the cult.

>> The Sheila to the Bwan.

>> Exactly.

>> You'd like to be the lieutenant?

>> Yeah. The Mary Todd Lincoln.

>> Yes.

>> And you'd like to keep like promoting

the the the cult leader and being like

they're really important. You have you

have to pay

>> the one who's doing all the work.

hyping. You'd do all the You'd have all

the power.

>> There's no Yeah. All the power but no

glory. Sort of just behind the scenes

being like, "We got him." You know, like

in the back of a black car.

>> I mean, I always love those cult

documentaries where the the second in

command is talking to us about how

incredible the cult leader is and then

they finally reveal the cult leader and

you're like, "Huh?"

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like Jared.

>> Yeah. Jared.

>> Jared. Okay.

>> Yeah. That's the That's the guy we're

talking about.

>> Like the Wow.

>> Like they they're always described as

very charismatic and like hypnotizing

and then their picture is just like

>> I mean I guess those people are like

agents essentially being like

>> Yeah, they're the hype.

>> You're going to Oh my god,

>> you're going to love him.

>> Oh god, he's so hot. Just wait.

>> And then the last question is for today.

What are you Okay, you've got free time.

You're you you've got you're going to

have to put some structure in your life

now moving forward.

Um, I'm not going to ask you what's

next.

>> Yeah.

>> Cuz I feel like it's too soon.

>> Yeah. I I I just don't know. You know,

>> but I want to know what are you

watching, listening, reading, and what

are you doing?

>> My kids.

>> No.

>> Oh, no. Not doing I mean listening.

Sorry. You I answered before. Can we cut

that?

>> I'm reading my kids.

Listening to my kids. Sorry. I just want

to focus on my kids.

>> Listening to my kids. I'm having dinner

with my kids. I finally get to have

dinner with my kids.

>> I get I get to just be a mom,

>> which is the most important role.

>> It's the most important job.

>> No, but sorry. What What am I watching

listening to? Yeah.

>> What do you What do you do? What makes

you laugh? Cuz you are you have you're

so funny and you have so many funny

friends and like like what do you what

do you laugh at?

>> Uh really just my my friends like I wait

for them to make me laugh on Marco Polo.

John Early does this bit

where he will send me a Marco Polo as if

he's meaning to send a message to

someone else,

but he but it's this elaborate thing

where it's like he's secretly planning

with all of the rest of my friends to

kill and cook and eat me

like like uh you know like you know

before the Tony's will send like a

message being like, "Okay, so hi

Claudia. Um, so Cole Foley thinks

they're going to the Tony's. Um, so

that's fine. I am a little worried about

getting them out of the dress just in

terms of grilling. It'll be hard, you

know, like stuff like that.

>> Dude, that is so fun.

>> Makes me laugh so hard every time. And

it it

>> complicated bit. A fun complicated bit.

And it goes to show like what you said

earlier, which is like your friends love

you. you

guys can deeply

that is like a big love language

>> and it goes to show that like you're

very safe around each other.

>> Yeah. And we It's just play. Sorry. I'm

sorry.

>> We'll be right back.

>> There's no there's We're not on the air.

All right.

>> We're not on the air. This isn't live.

>> Mark, back to you.

>> Anyway, that's been Kasola. Mark, thank

you. How's it going out there, Mark?

How's the weather? Are you doing okay

during the hurricane? People should

know, by the way, it's like 102 degrees

today.

>> I know. And I'm in flannel.

>> You're in long princely princely like

princely flannel.

>> Yeah.

>> Cole, thank you so much for

fun. Thank you so and congratulations on

your huge success.

>> I thought you going to say huge boner.

Sorry. Cut that out.

>> We can't. We have to It was in a part in

the tape where we have to make it a

sound clip and it's I used people and

huge boner. Yeah, we have to make it

another sound clip. I'm so sorry.

>> It's all right. Thanks.

>> That was so great. Thank you, Cole. That

was so fun and funny. And it's just for

this Polar Plunge, I just want to point

you towards more Coloscola content

because there is so much funny stuff on

YouTube, whether it's the orange juice

commercial that me and Amy Sedaris and

Cole referenced, uh, or it's the serial

killer documentary, um, fake um, videos

that Cole made with Jeffrey Self and

others and and just there's so much

content um, that they've made over the

years that is so funny and stupid and

weird and um so many different wigs and

they have a face for all of them. So, uh

check that out and thank you so much for

listening to this episode and every

episode and thank you so much for

listening in general and for being so

nice. Okay, bye.

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executive producers for this show are

Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and

me, Amy Polar. The show is produced by

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Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Cat

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For Paperkite, production by Sam Green,

Joel Levelvel, and Jenna Weiss Berman.

Original music by Amy Miles.

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