Abbi Jacobson and Ilana Glazer on Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hello everyone and welcome to another

episode of Good Hang. Um, this is an

exciting one. I'm starting this episode

in Los Angeles and then I'm getting on

an airplane and I'm flying to New York

where I go to that studio and talk to

Abby Jacobson and Alana Glazer, the

stars of Broad City, the just the

sweetest, most wonderful, talented women

who in many ways helped my company

Paperkite uh grow and expand into what

it is today. And um I cannot wait to

talk to them. We're going to talk about

Broad City, the show, of course, and

getting that made and what it was like

to do it together. We're going to talk

about female friendships. We're going to

talk about, you know, life as a

millennial and how it's changed and what

is nostalgia. And hopefully, we're going

to get to all of those things. But I

always like to start these episodes with

people um who know our guests, who um

have uh good feelings and thoughts about

our guests and want to give me questions

to ask the guests. And I thought, no

better people to ask than the women who

run Paperkite Productions, the co-heads,

the co-presidents of Paper Kite, Kate

Aaron and Kim Leing, who work with me

every day and who are going to join me

in this studio to talk about Abby and

Alana. So ladies, welcome.

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>> All I ever wanted was a really good

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>> Jane Aaron and Kim Leing sharing a

laptop today.

>> That's how we work laptops. Let's all

work on

>> Hold on, Amy. We have to run your

company. One second.

>> And send

>> send.

Sorry.

>> Okay. I'm so excited to interview you

guys because we are here um in the

studio and next door to paper kite

offices which you co-run and we're

talking to Abby and Alana about Broad

City and I just felt like it was such a

great combo because

in many ways you represent millennial

and zelenial.

>> No thanks.

>> Orennial Jen Yen

>> Jen not I'm so c you're cy. Not with Gen

Z,

>> but not with the Z.

>> Anyway, we represent like what you two

represent teamwork in many ways and I

want to talk about that, but also you

know what uh how important that show was

to Paperkite and its growth. So before

we start, tell everybody what you do

here at the company. What's your job? So

Kim and I, as Amy said, were the

co-presidents of Paperkite Productions,

and we are in charge of the many

incredible shows and movies that

Paperkite makes. Um, everything from

Broad City to Russian Doll, Difficult

People Harlem.

>> Yeah, we're producers. We don't produce

as a team. We actually produce

separately. And we really take on

projects based on our passion for them,

our availability. like we really we

really are we like to describe ourselves

as the engines of projects, the

connectors of projects. And um we really

love we really love every second of

doing it.

>> And we've both we've been here working

with Amy for 10 plus years.

>> We will never leave.

>> That's right.

>> She'll have to drag us out of here.

>> We have the keys to this.

>> Well, you do really have all the

secrets.

>> Yeah. And they're bad.

I'm so nervous.

But but like I was just trying to do the

math of the timing.

>> Oh, we both started on Broad City.

>> Yeah. So tell me how you started on that

show and like what your memories of the

early Broad City days.

>> Well, I actually started on the Comedy

Central side, right? So, I was like

thrilled to get this job at Comedy

Central because they were making Broad

City. And then I ended up leaving Comedy

Central to come work with you and I got

to work even closer to the ladies on

Broad City. And it was like I knew I was

in the right place because I felt like I

was making something that actually

genuinely represented my life and

genuinely represented the types of

friendships I was having.

>> So, when I first interviewed with Amy, I

had just watched season one of Broad

City and I remember being like, "Holy

[ __ ] I've never seen queens like this

on TV before." or like no one's ever

existed like this on television my age

>> doing the kind of stuff my friends and I

do say speaking the way that we speak

and my first day of paper kite Amy and I

did notes on a season 2 episode and I

was like is this real life like what is

happening

>> and that was your first day?

>> Yeah. Well, maybe my second, but you

know,

>> I got to like send my boss at the time

my notes on the cut, one of the first

cuts of I think I started on season 3

actually and she used some of them and I

was like I've made it into

entertainment. I was like I'm in I was

so happy. But we used to do a lot of

like are you Abby, are you in a are you

who is who and which it wasn't a hard

one. I want to talk about it because

what was so cool um about what is so

cool about the um that show is it it

creates these versions of like uh

friends and you know much like you know

back in the day like Leverne and Shirley

or even the Golden Girls or Sex in the

City like when you start being like are

you an Abby or an Alana what it I think

underneath that is it proves like the

writing is good that you've identified

what a what version of you.

>> It was such a specific friendship that

it was completely and utterly universal.

Like you just that it everyone was

either an Abby or an Alana. So what are

you?

>> I'm obviously Alana because I'm like

head over heels in love with Kate and

always have been and always try to touch

her butt.

>> It started with me being like can I

Yeah. And then she's like you're being

like sorry. I mean I would never do that

at work. That's not okay. But like when

we left the office.

>> But when we left the office like on the

way to the car. Yeah.

>> In the parking lot.

>> So Kate, you are an Abby.

>> She's also a dead head.

>> Totally.

>> Yeah. We both love Oprah. So that kind

of stuff.

>> And you guys have that crazy Oprah

connection where you both like her.

>> So for people who don't know um about

what we do, right? So we're a film and

production company. We uh we do all

different kinds of projects, animated um

uh unscripted. We do um half hours, we

do hourlong dramas, but Broad City, we

use it a lot as an example when we're

talking to creators about, you know,

young creators who have an idea and want

to transfer it and could you speak a

little bit to how we use that as an

example?

>> We always say like Broad City is our

north star and it is the north star. I

think if you are a young female creator

in comedy in the last 10 years, that's

it. like they did the thing that

everybody wished they could do that men

had been doing for a long time. There

was truly, like we said before, no one

like them. So, we always refer to them

as kind of

>> they're they're in meshed in our ethos

as a company. Yeah. And they have a lot

of elements of things that we really

resonate with like scrappy underdogs,

women who love each other, people that

are like with have like messy edges, and

also two characters that really want

something. Like what I always related to

about Abby and Alana is even though they

were like silly and messy, they always

really went after the things they

wanted. Like they went after with such

passion

>> and they took such good care of each

other, which is such friendship is so

important to us. We had a conversation

day one. If there's any sense of

competition or jealousy, we have to talk

about it. We have to get it out

>> because it will just sit in and fester

and make it stressful and miserable. and

communication just

>> we were smart enough to know then that

it was the thing that was going to get

us through and today 11 years later it's

still we're so brutally honest with each

other and and then we say thank you to

the other person that we can be so

brutally honest with each other and

>> I feel like Abby and Alana were like

that

>> totally and just the other day for

example Kate was like you interrupted me

a thousand times and I was like thank

you so much for letting

>> we both cried because it was so nice

>> and I was like I'm so glad you feel

comfortable telling me she was like I'm

so glad you're going to job.

>> It's true.

>> But, you know, we talk about it a lot

here. Like, you know, a workplace is um

I I like to say it's not a family, it's

a country. And

>> I like to say it's a family.

>> We reject that, but that's great.

>> And um lovers are family.

>> It's a bed full of lovers.

>> A bed full of lovers who are all

related.

>> A family of lovers.

It's a family that everyone borrowed

money from each other.

>> That's right.

>> No. Um, a workplace is a country and has

it has its own culture and language and

set of rules. And so what one of the

things I think that the our country

believes in is that in our experience,

female friendships are a natural

resource. They are like the most

important things in our life. And for

the most part, they're not like these

competitive awful like um you know,

experiences. They're often like the most

supportive

>> experiences. And I feel like you're

talking exactly about that that women

often come together and help each other

in real time. And that help is like, you

know, like rooting for other people's

success never gets in the way of your

own basically.

>> But that it's hard to remember that

sometimes. And I think a lot of work

environments are not conducive. Like

ours was easy. You're our mentor. Like

it was easy to be like, "Let's team up."

You know, it was a but it sometimes

takes a lot of work. But I think there's

never a time when it's not worth it just

to try to like reach out a hand and be

like, "Let's be

>> let's be a team instead of enemies."

Like rising tide. Yeah. Rising.

>> Salt boats, right? Like I think

>> I actually think you said that once and

I it was the first time I'd heard

>> invented that quote. I think

>> I think you're right. Let's, you know, I

have a laptop. Let's Let's see who can

find uh who said that faster. Okay. Can

get to work.

>> Hey, I can do it faster.

>> Lifts all boats is an apherism

associated with Well, we know. Oh, it's

attributed to John F. Kennedy.

>> There is no way.

>> There is literally no way. That kid gets

so much credit he doesn't deserve.

>> How dare you?

>> How?

>> I know you're upset. first Irish

Catholic. There's nothing wrong with

JFK.

>> Literally so handsome. Relax,

>> guys. My grandmother had a picture of

Jesus and JFK in his house.

>> We had such different grand.

>> So So that brings me to million-dollar

advice because we're talking about the

podcast that you two are doing. We're

gonna it's going to be pre the new

season is going to be launching very

soon. Tell us about what that podcast

is. Okay, so our show Million-Dollar

Advice is a work advice podcast where we

have people call and email in and we

answer their work rellated questions. So

it can be anything from like how do I

deal with my shitty boss to Kim's dying

for a question about what to do if your

coworker owes you money. I feel like

there's there's questions you guys are

not asking us about like you loan

someone money for something and they

just haven't paid you back. How do you

ask? Like how do you ask? When's it

when's it too soon? When's it gone on

too long?

>> Great question.

>> But good question.

>> But basically, Kim and I because of this

amazing communication and partnership

that we have, we almost we're like, we

got to share this because we we're in on

something.

>> I mean, our advice is so good.

>> It's a million. It's at minimum

million-dollar advice. It's so good. And

like and we get each other through

everything. And so many people don't

have this kind of like work friend, work

sound.

>> You don't have an Alana to their Abby

and

>> or Kate to their Kim, right? some.

>> So, we want to be that for people and

you know, our first season is like full

of the types of questions we're

interested in answering and we're

>> hoping for that money question in the

second one.

>> Yeah. So, we're making more. How can

people send in questions?

>> milliondoll advice podgmail.com

and they can send an email, you can

leave a voice note, whatever your fancy

is and we'll get back to you and and

>> we'll figure out if you want to call in.

>> We'll solve all your problem. We'll fix

your life.

>> That's the thing. It's like you're

wondering like how do I fix my life?

What do I do? It was like so easy. Email

million milliondollar advice

pod@gmail.com and it's gone.

>> Okay, perfect. And then I'm going to get

an airplane. I'm going to fly to New

York.

>> That's great.

>> Uh, what question do you think I should

ask Abby and Alana?

>> I have a good one. Okay.

>> I think I have a really good one.

>> Okay.

>> So,

>> when you make a show together, it's like

having a a new baby. Like you're all

work all the time. And I was curious

like what things they did to fill their

friendship cup and make sure that they

were still like in love in the like

staying in love during like the most

>> the hardest longest hours.

>> Great question. Um Million-Dollar

Advice. We're going to check that out.

We're going to talk about it more. Abby

and Alana, we're going to see them in

New York. Um thank you guys so much for

coming across the street to this studio

from our offices.

>> Thanks for having us.

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>> You are a little raspy today because of

your Broadway performances. That's

right.

>> Congratulations.

>> Thank you so much.

>> And I cannot wait to talk about it. It's

very exciting.

>> Um Abby and Alana are here today. my

children wives sister

partners in crime. I'm very excited you

guys are here. Thank you for doing this.

>> We're so excited to be here.

>> I was thinking about our talk today.

There's just so many things to talk

about today and I was like so excited.

>> Oh my gosh.

>> Like I have a paper and everything. For

people that um don't know, you know,

Broad City was a long-running show on

Comedy Central that Abby and Alana wrote

and starred in and directed and produced

and created. And it was and is like this

really important show for a lot of

people. And I was thinking about the

last scene today. What happened in the

last scene? And what it what what were

you trying to say in it? And has it

lasted? That scene came

as a vision to Paul W. downs. Do you

remember that?

>> That's right.

>> Uh he came in, we were writing um we

wrote a part of season 5 in LA in an

Airbnb and Paul came in one morning and

he was like, I had a flash of the last

moment and I think I think this is this

see where Alana

exits the subway in Union Square and

we've we've facetimed. Yeah. Right. and

and Alana's walking through the city and

then the camera leaves Alana and sees

the other pairs. I just got chills.

>> I know.

>> And he was like that that was like the

thing and that was

>> that was what we kind of had always

talked about which is just like we're

we're one of like

>> thousands and millions of of pairs. Uh,

and we had just been following us, but

uh, the New York of it all was like we

were showcasing like, oh, there's

there's these there's Abby Alana's

everywhere.

>> Yes.

>> And, you know, we end on um, do you know

Marie Fston and Sydney Washington, the

standups? And but to end on uh, Marie

and Sydney was so perfect just because

they're so delicious and they're such an

iconic pair themselves.

Um, yeah. So, um, I think what we were,

you know, trying to say is that we

followed Abby and Alana, but everybody's

got their everybody's, if you're in your

own life, oh, you're having your own

adventures and your parties and New York

is such a always this like infinitely

fruitful backdrop for the craziest [ __ ]

to happen. I I can't get over it. I've

been here 20 years. I I can't get

enough. I can't get enough.

and and and what it what it was and I

still is and is that what you what you

did with that ending I think is you gave

the show back to the people that loved

it

>> and that's why I think that the you know

the DNA cry cry cry um I love to get

people to cry um I think it felt um and

still feels like one of the big reasons

why that show sticks around is exactly

what you said is people fe they are the

main characters of their own story.

Everyone is and everyone feels like

they're living a life that feels

very much like Abby and Alana's life.

Like how am I piecing together a life in

real time? And the fact that that ending

was like passing the baton, it's it's

very deep and is I think it has to do a

lot with what we're going to talk about

today in your work. So, for those people

that don't know, let's go back in time.

>> To little tiny babies.

>> Alana's 19.

>> Wow.

>> Right. And Abby, you're What are your

You guys met. What age? And where did

you meet? How did How did you two?

>> 22.

>> This is so funny that this Well, I knew

this happening, but um

>> Wow.

>> 19 years ago, my dog.

>> Yeah. This is actually This is crazy

that I did this last week. Uh, we met in

a

>> Did what last week?

>> Oh, I'm going to get to that.

>> We met Iowa in I did Iaska last week and

I went right back there uh to 22 and No,

but we were in an improv practice group

like we were both taking classes at UCB.

>> Yeah.

>> I had just graduated college, moved

here.

>> You were still at NYU. Um, you know, you

you take classes at UCB and then like

you you're like, we got to form a

practice group like after school or like

at night your day job. Uh, our mutual

friend Tim Martin um I remember he was

like I'm in this class with these two uh

>> it's a it's a brother and sister and

they're great. Like can they come and

practice with us? And we were like,

"Yeah." And Elliot and Alana came and I

was like, "This girl is on Arrested

Development.

That's crazy."

>> Like, "How does she have time to get off

of Arrest?"

>> It just ended and I was like, "It makes

sense. She's in New York."

>> Makes sense. You're on like a huge

network show and then you go do practice

>> to be in my practice.

>> Makes sense. Just It makes sense.

>> Well, I mean, this is a good This is my

side. And then we go to McManis that

night, which is a bar nearby the

theater. And we're sitting at the bar,

uh, you and me, and it was like other,

it was only guys in the group except us.

And we're talking, we're like, "Where

are you from? Where you from?" And I was

like smitten with this person like

everyone that meets Alana is. I was

like, "This person is unlike anyone I've

ever met."

>> And not like any of my friends. And we

were just like,

>> and she was like, "I'm from Long

Island." And I was like, "Whoa, like two

of my best friends from college are from

Long Island." She's like, "I'm from

Smithtown." And I was like, "So are

they." And I was like, and then I said

their names and you were like, "I know

them." And I was like, "This is not the

government."

Oh my god, I'm literally crying. Um,

>> but I remember you were I'm going to cry

as well.

>> Wait, Alana's crying. What's What's

making you cry?

>> When she said smitten, I started crying.

Oh my gosh, that's just so sweet. And I

remember, you know, dramatically falling

under the bar. You know, these two same

people. It's like we're Jews. We're from

the tri-state area. like not that big

from like half hours away. I was I was

changed that Abby knew these two people.

>> I think what you were saying what was

underneath that is like that the

universe like it it's why it's so

thrilling to look back at how things

come together

>> because the smallest changes in our

lives go in a completely different way.

And what you were noticing like the

universe was giving you some signs of

familiarity basically like it's you know

if you believe in past lives it's like

oh we knew each other before like that's

the universe just like making sure you

have something to talk about so you

spend five more minutes talking so then

you spend 15 minutes talking so then you

do a show together

>> right

>> wait real quick so on Friday I was in

Chelsea and I where I was going

>> I'm like confronted with McManis.

>> Wow.

>> Wow. And when you said McManus the first

time I like almost made a joke. It's

like so rude, but like a a dumpster with

bars like you know nailed in it.

New York City for people that are

listening. That used to be kind of the

place where everybody after improv shows

would hang out

>> and it was like green paper tablecloths

at the time and French leather seats.

>> It's just like Yeah. It's like ass

grooves and it's never been changed out.

like you're sitting in our ass groups in

McAnnis like it's never been updated.

>> Like the people in the back were like

unattainable

>> like at that point we were like up at

the front looking like

>> there was this hierarchy at UCB that we

never climbed. We only climbed it

outside of

>> um UCB through Broad City. But yeah, the

further back you went like an invisible

velvet road.

>> Yeah.

>> But I walked in I went in the side door.

>> Wow. Like I It's crazy. I went in and

>> but we went there so much after that

moment but I walked in. We even shot in

there.

>> We shot like the cocktail cold open in

McManus. We needed to shoot there. But I

I walked in and just remembered that

moment I just said

>> of you and I at the bar.

>> Wow.

That's a real time travel moment. And so

you meet and you're like you're not Alia

Shakwat but I will have you two be in a

scene many years later in Broad City.

But you say, "Okay, I see something in

you. I love being with you. We like

being with each other." And then you

start creating. What is the Do you

remember like when that creative content

stuff started?

>> Like, you know, I I think being in this

improv group, it wasn't like we got so

much duo time. Um there was something

like um like a grit that was like a

tension that was not the same. the

difference between us that when rubbed

together, you know, created this spark,

this like difference, the the

differences about us that we were like,

that's funny. That's funny. And I think

also as women and as young women, it's

you're kind of safer together. So, it's

it's like you're going to cry. Yeah.

Aby's correct.

>> It's I love it. It's so good. Why do we

get our makeup done?

>> Makeup done.

>> Yeah. Um,

>> we're not going to get through any

questions.

>> Let's cry. Let's cry the entire time.

And I'm going to get one on deck. Tissue

on deck.

>> I'm feeling

>> But it's like, you know, it's I think

it's so much about sameness when you're

young, when you're a young woman. But we

were, I think, secure enough with each

other to recognize our differences. And

it tickled us.

>> And beyond our sense of humor, that was

both, you know, ven diagram shared and

different. It was also like our work

ethic. We were like desperate to make a

spreadsheet, you know?

>> Yeah.

>> And we're like we had these ideas and we

were like desperate to list them neatly,

you know,

neatly. Like

>> I mean that is I think a lot of like

your when you get out of college in that

time period where you're like I need to

give myself a job. I need to be busy

>> because I've you know up until now

school work has kept me busy and like

the course or whatever that I've been on

has kept me busy. You're like, "Now I

have to structure my own business. I

have to create busy things."

>> Well, something that just that's coming

up for me is all three of us having

worked so much in food and service, you

know, and there's so much busyness in

that, you know,

>> just texted you about Steamer's Landing.

>> You just texted me about

>> What was the What was that place you

worked? Was it actually called Steamer's

Landing?

>> Like disgusting. Even if they still

exist.

>> I bet the French fries are good though.

Steamers Land.

>> Yeah. But in in Broad City, Paul Muchia

had changed it in a script to dumpers

post.

And I I remember we were at the office

and we were like first reading a script

that they got back to us. I fell to my

knees

like bent over a couch fell to my knees

dump

>> and we're talking about Paul DS and

Luchia and Yellow who went on are now

creators of hacks and who you know wrote

and directed and um produced with you

and us Broad City. So like they also

have their like baby versions of this

experience. That's right. Well, we so we

did this uh improv group for like 2

years before doing anything broad city,

but it was it was the two of them

actually who we made one episode of

Broad City the web series and we were

like again as Alana said so organized so

organized and it was the two of them who

saw it and emailed us and loved it.

>> The first episode came out and they

>> they were emailed us doing this. So,

when we when you guys were in your

second season of this web series in

2011,

I was down the street living the West

Village um and I get a text from uh uh

Upright Citizens Brigade um teacher uh

Will was it Will Hinds?

>> Yeah.

>> And he said, "Hey, um check out Abby and

Alana. They're doing some great web

series stuff and they wanted to know if

you want to do it." And so I watched a

bunch of your stuff and I thought it was

really funny and it was shooting right

down the street from my house and you

two asked me to come do a small bit. We

were like um running away and I remember

oranges fell on me at one point. There

were I don't remember anything about the

plot.

>> What was the plot? What was the plot? It

doesn't matter.

>> We were running.

>> We were running and we were trying to

get to spoiler a cookie.

>> The plot was very Brad City. We were

running to get a cookie. Um and um and

then after that, as far as I remember,

very soon after you sent me an email

saying what I remember this very well,

we that last episode of the web series,

we knew we wanted it to be the last one.

It was like more production value. We

like worked with this director who it

was just like bigger. and uh we uh

emailed you with the cut maybe of it and

said

>> this is our we we've been thinking and

we want to go to LA and pitch this as a

show. Would you ever consider being the

executive producer on it? We were also

like kind of excited that we were like

pretty much the same height and when we

first met and was just like this is

funny, you know, like

>> yeah, we all love being short

>> literally seeing eye to eye and I

remember being like well we we might

send it to Jonah Hill and we knew we

were going to ask you but we weren't

going to ask you on the spot the day.

>> I'm just here to say it was a genius

move to say you were going to send it to

Jonah Hill.

>> Incredible move.

>> Girl, your face I will never forget. She

goes like she goes.

>> That's what you did. I remember being

like I remember being like whoa whoa

whoa what the I remember just being like

she was like pissed immediately

>> immediately like in the race like taking

like immediately cuz I am competitive

but I remember thinking like no Jonah

Hill can't have broad like so

>> and this was not a ploy we really were

like Jonah Hill you know what I mean

whatever but like you know but I I

remember your your expression you know

and and like I don't know I just

>> I remember just thinking later. Like,

you know, it's always smart uh to to

it's like in relationship it's okay

sometimes to be like you're not the only

one circling here, honey.

>> I'm dating, babe.

>> I'm dating.

>> You think I'm just waiting around?

>> Yeah. I'm not going to Okay, this we're

we're so So, so you sent me the email

and I was like, "Let's go. We're in."

And we started developing together. And

>> wait, can I just say one thing? You your

response to that email, I think, was the

biggest celebration of the entire 10

years. I remember it was it was on my I

called I think I called you

>> and I was like shooting some short film

>> and she was like upstate in the middle

of now I was like oh

you clearly didn't open your email open

your email and like we were freaking out

I was like I think I had to leave a

party I left a birthday party it was

like it was honestly that was it

>> like I remember all the other milestones

but you saying you were going to like

that was like your hero believes in you

that was Crazy.

>> And then you remember we met. Okay. You

were like, "Well, let's meet about it."

And we're like, "Okay, let's meet about

it." We met before we met

>> for like a good hour. We were like,

"Okay,

>> just to get our just to like prevomit,

you know?"

>> Yeah. We were like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah."

And we're like, "What's it going to be

like?" It could be anything.

>> Just just in this hallway like before we

met, I was like this forever kiddo, Amy

Polar, like you can just picture what

your parents saw you as in the doorway

at 8. like you're always that like hey

you know and like the way you just

walked down the hallway to greet us.

That was how you walk down the [ __ ]

street. She's like hello you know like

all sunshine. You're wearing these like

cute sunglasses and a dress and it's

just sunshine and this like

>> oo you're like your your like heart is

on your sleeve and it's you at 8. And we

were like that it was surreal. That was

like really like trippy gloopy. The

whole lunch was like as though I was

tripping my wheels off

>> after it as well.

>> And I spent a whole day together around

the meeting. But cuz I remember we were

like she watched every like you came

with the legal like we got to make a

teaser. We made the teaser from the

legal pad going through our silly little

episodes what you thought of each one

and we were like h m we were like what

is going on? the thoughts and the I

don't know real opinions

>> and we were at which I'm not gonna say

where we were at a restaurant where we

were like this is clearly Amy's favorite

restaurant.

>> Got like you know those like sort of

>> like saying hello to everybody.

>> Hello George. How's your wife? Oh my

god.

>> And we're like we'll just get toast you

know like we don't even know how to

order this. You know what do you get?

Well, we'll get that, you know, like

just not even knowing how to have like

be a person.

>> It's so funny. I mean, I I have just

nothing but like exciting bottom of show

mountain memories of it. And you know, I

I the reason the one of the many reasons

why I'm so thrilled that we're talking

today is like to put it in perspective

for me, Broad City made me feel like a

real producer. Um I had been producing

on parks. I had produced other things

and stuff that I had done and you know

we had technically produced our UCB show

even though we didn't know what that was

that was what we were doing and our

sketches at SNL but Broad City felt like

the child that made me the mother like

and it it's still when I think about it

I feel so proud to have been um along

for the ride and just being in being

help helpful in any way. But I learned

so much from watching the two of you. I

learned so much from like trying to

advocate for the show. I learned so much

about what kind of stuff I wanted to

make.

>> I'm just going to fully cry now.

>> Oh my god. This is it now.

It's just

>> Oh my god.

>> And then plus the voice, it's like going

to seem so insane.

But it's like, dude, like it's just like

you I don't want to cut you off, but

it's like, you know, I remember this one

time

>> that we had lunch or whatever and like

you talked about the sexual politic of

the show and I was like politic. I

remember like then then we'd be like out

talking and I'd be like, "Well, what

we're really trying to do is the sexual

politic of the show."

>> Oh my god. Can I have like a full tissue

this gross half tissue?

Talk talk about sexual politic for a

second.

>> Very I've said this before immediately

what I learned and this is why I love

like the best thing about getting older

is like being less and less certain

about everything if you're doing it

right. You just know you're supposed to

be you're supposed to let go of the

grasp of the things you think you know.

>> And that is what I think young people

do. Young people younger than you do.

even just the very simple way in which

you guys approached your own bodies,

your own bodies in space, your own

bodies on the show, the way you

approached I mean I remember very uh uh

specifically saying you know um

you know if you don't want to get in

your underwear for this for this scene

>> the pilot

>> in the pilot you guys feel uncomfortable

and you're like we wrote it we are the

ones writing that we're in our underwear

and we're so comfortable with how the

dynamic is in the scene we're Oh, like

thank you, good looking out, but you're

but you're kind of missing the point in

a way. And there was a lot of that for

me where I watched how you two

um reminded me of like what I what was

like an old story or like old

programming. Like I think it's what Brad

City did a lot

>> and still does. I will say on that I

don't know how

fully comfortable I was in those scenes

>> but I think that was also like okay over

here we wrote it and I like loved it so

much and I knew that like

>> Abby as actor will have to deal with

that when we get to the day

>> and for me that like I feel like that

like Broad City was in a moment for me

of like a little bit later

uh a huge growth like I feel like I grew

up a little later. I'm gonna fully cry

like and and in so many ways because of

Alana

>> which is so like the Abby and Alana

that's what's happening that's what's

happening like the confidence

>> like

>> like I I think first of all like

>> [ __ ] [ __ ] but the confidence like of the

that dynamic of like like Abby is the

insecure one and Alana's got this like

bravado and that's like something that I

was like learning right alongside the

character because that was real. Yeah.

>> You know, like us being

>> us being sorry I'm laughing. We we are

but us being the hottest women in like

any room is like that was like not how I

approached

>> going out and we I would go out with

Alana as a friend and that would be like

and I don't know if that was like a fake

it till you make it but that was like

the charge of like yeah you know we are

and and my ass is the like the hot like

my ass being a hot thing was not

something I ever thought we'd focus on

so much.

>> I still love it. And then I was like I

only like only through Alana like that

among many other things was like such a

huge change for me. And I think like so

like us being in our underwear I was

like able to be like I might not be

comfortable but like I know this is so

right and this is so powerful and like

so funny. I mean I think that's what

female friendships at their best do is

they they provide this the opposite of a

funhouse mirror. Like they provide this

like beautiful mirror that you get to

look in and see this version of yourself

that your friend sees. And you're right,

it's very it's that's aspirational. It's

kind of manifesty, but it is like you

are sexy if you say so. And you're

beautiful if you feel so. And everybody

is beautiful and sexy and in their own

way. And sometimes you just get can't

you have to have like a a surrogate feel

it for you. Yeah. And that's what you do

for each other in female friendships.

And that's what exactly what Abby and

Alana did constantly is just and it's

good for comedy like pumping each other

up is funny.

>> Oh, it's so funny. And you know to the

point before of what I was saying about

sexual politic you just validated us um

as women not as girls. Everybody called

us girls. Even the people working for

us, you know, they called the girls

whatever. You called us women at such a

young time where I was like damn I

suppose we are. And then, you know, like

with comedy, I mean, it's just I just

will never It's just the [ __ ] best.

Comedy is just the [ __ ] best.

>> Why is it the best?

>> Because it's like it's um it's this

cosmic container that just lifts you up

off the ground of like the systems we're

rooted in and just connects people so

efficiently. It's so efficient, you

know, just whatever. Obviously, farts

are the funniest. Someone farts does

>> I I disagree. I really

>> I'm not the biggest fart is funny fan.

>> Like if somebody farts in a context

where they're not supposed to, you don't

giggle.

>> I don't think is it really depends. Like

that was actually a big thing for us on

the set of parks and wreck cuz like

people would fart and I'd be like don't

fart.

>> Just like in the in life.

>> Yeah. Like on

that's not what I'm talking about.

>> Tell me if they accidentally fart. I

feel a little codependently worried

about them.

>> Um No. I mean like if somebody farts as

a joke to invade your space with odor,

that's not cool.

>> That's like sibling.

>> Yes.

>> That's like shenanigans like that.

>> Well, what what are

>> Okay, so I remember a a good broad city

fart. I'm meeting your parents. It's at

like your Shiva and Bob Baliban picks me

up and we're like and we're adding a

fart there.

>> That's what I'm talking about.

>> Did I change your mind? You're talking

about professorial masterful fart comedy

>> that was really thoroughly thought out

and intentional.

>> But you're right. A little squeeze that

comes into a little like and like like

it farts are cute if they're cute.

>> Oh, for sure. But I'm also talking about

like adding a sound effect or when

>> we did just we did add the sound effect.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> We got edited. I hear you. and and and

and what and then just to stay in the to

get us on the air, we you write a

script, we go to FX, we try to make it

at FX, they pass and we kind of have a

moment where we have to regroup. I

remember just going back to what you

were talking about maybe like when you

felt like producer, I remember you would

be the one that would have to deliver

that news to us.

>> I did. I learned a lot

in real time. I was learning on the job,

you know, I was like like all of us like

you sometimes at fake it till you make

it. You have to kind of pretend. And I

remember thinking,

>> right, my job here is to

uh never let never let anyone feel like,

you know, we're not going to solve this

problem because it's just you're

supposed you're supposed to keep the

ship in the water and you don't you

know, and other people can steer it, but

you have to make sure it doesn't sink.

And so I remember not quite knowing

where we were going to go next, but

feeling like I needed to make sure that

you felt like we were going to go

somewhere good. And you did. Yeah. I'm

remembering now another lunch at a place

that we never would go, but we were like

totally we'll meet there and and it's

going to be chill. Um Basar anyway. Um

so we like met for lunch.

>> Oh my god. But you were like um so you

know l lucky for us um Comedy Central

had wanted us, which isn't always the

case. And you were like, "FX is like a

cold boyfriend. You don't even want

them."

>> No.

>> Anyway, you don't want that boyfriend

anyway. And it was like,

>> "Yeah, I don't I Yeah.

>> And and that time, Comedy Central, maybe

to let people know, you we were in such

good company. Who else was on the air

during that time?"

>> Kim Peele.

>> Kim Peele. Workaholics who had a similar

like web to

>> to TV. Um

>> Amy Schumer. Inside Amy Schumer, Cruel

Show.

>> Maybe Nathan for you. Yeah, that's

right. Early Nathan Fielder. Yeah, it

was such a incredible time.

>> Why do you think it's come, you know,

it's like sprung back in this way right

now? It must feel good to have people

still come up to you and and say they

love it and and say who they think they

are. And

>> it's also like such an a newly as we are

like becoming like

literally middle-aged adults. It's like

such a sweet such a sweet connective

thing when people talk about it. When we

were younger, they thought we wanted

they thought we improvised it. We were

like we work so hard to write this over

and over and over, you know, it's just

improv. It's slept together and and that

we're like stone like if they're meeting

us on the street that we're stoned in

that moment or whatever. Like we think

we're the characters from the show. And

like what it is now is like it's just

reached this like such a warm sweet

>> like bed for connection.

>> I I don't know if you experience I mean

when we're we haven't for a second been

like out together but that's a whole

other thing if people are like what are

you guys doing on the street together?

But like my wife Jodie like she's like

this is unlike anything like to have

someone witness it. She's like, "You get

this we like this wild positive

affirmation like coming at you."

>> Mhm.

>> That is so rare.

>> That is like a really I feel very

thankful all the time for that. Before

we move off of the Broad City section, I

do want to just for like people that are

big fans, hottest day on set, coldest

day on set. Any memories of like when

you were very hot, very cold? Everything

was so sweaty. Literally sweaty.

>> And I don't know why I was always

wearing skinny jeans. So really added to

it.

>> Babe, it was the time

>> we were Alana sent me something. We're

like something happened and I was like,

>> you know what's going to happen when you

know what's going to happen when you're

70? This is because this is now started

to finally happen. Skinny jeans are

going to come back around

>> and people are going to but people are

going to be like, "This is so cool.

These these really tight skinny jeans."

And you're going to say, you know, I

used to wear it's wild. Like

>> hoping, you know, but maybe.

>> I mean, remember skinny jean? I mean,

what what I'm trying to think of like

they're still going out. They're still I

still see people in them.

>> Yeah. I see millennials being like,

"Fuck you. I don't care. I'm wearing

skinny jeans. I feel organized in them."

And I get it.

>> Yeah. Well, that's what I mean. It just

now it's like all the way around to if

you're wearing skinny jeans, you're a

confident person.

>> Yeah. you're, you know, but I also had

these straight down bangs for a lot of

the show and I remember they would get

they'd be be fully soaking wet.

>> So soft wet bangs have to be like we dry

the bang bangs.

>> That's so funny.

>> So funny.

>> Um and um guest stars who comes to mind

as people that when you just like pops

into your head is like, "Oh, that was a

fun day. That was a good moment. That

was there's so many great people that

came through the show. Like

>> um RuPaul just cracks me up. He was so

he was so like um studying his lines and

saying them to himself that I was like

damn.

>> Mhm. I And I would say Kelly Ripa.

>> I mean just the way just her being that

version we wrote of her for was wild.

Kelly Ripa was

>> too like her joy was like oh my god.

like she really wanted to be there and

it was like so contagious

>> and and do you remember Lady Gaga

tweeting about the show how important

that was?

>> Yes, we were in the writer room.

>> That was a season two end of season one.

She was like, "Oh my god, we they used

my song. My favorite I think it was like

my favorite show used my song

>> and we we met her. She like asked us to

come or you know invited us to a to a

performance and we like went on her bus

and like the thing she was on the bus."

>> Yeah. It was like right outside the like

performance or whatever. And she was so

kind being like, "You you remind me when

I watch your show, I feel like I'm not

>> famous and I'm young again." And like

just running around the city before

>> all of this, which you know, she was

clearly grateful for, but also was

clearly quite heavy.

>> Yeah.

>> And it was so many years ago. It was

like before now she's like such a woman.

>> We got her song. I mean, how did we even

afford her song? How did we do that? I

have no idea. paid for it. But um how

did we

>> I think she liked it was like if someone

someone involved liked the show,

someone's manager or something. I don't

know.

>> Um Whoopi Whoopi came and did a

>> Whoopi

>> BG wordless

sister Mary Clarence.

>> Yeah, that was wild. That was wild.

>> And I remember like meeting her and

being like and she comes in the trailer.

She is such a badass. Like so herself

the same. She's exactly who you'd think

she is. And and I like we were just like

acting totally cool and we were also in

stages that were like illegal and like

an abandoned building essentially. And I

I was like well she was like leaving and

I was like thanks so much. It meant so

much to me. And then I she left and I

like immediately like turned around and

wept and like cried in rubble in like

Bushwick rubble that we were filming in

for some reason. Um because she was so

not only did she do our show but like

such a real ass [ __ ] such a like a

comedy girl, real woman.

>> Oh my god, Shaniah Twain. I think about

that a lot actually cuz we we got her to

say, "Man, I feel like a smoothie."

>> I think about all that.

>> So game. So game.

>> She was like, that was like so crazy.

>> I know she did that for

>> I mean,

>> you're pointing at me. Oh boy.

>> I'm like, that should be a show.

>> That was the bear. We did the bear

before the bear. You did the bear

before.

>> We did the bear before the bear. You're

right. And for people, there was a scene

where I was in the back of the kitchen

and there was a whole drama with me and

Seth Morris.

>> Another

exes and we just created a little bit of

a thing. And you're right. You know

what? The bears stole

>> the bears stole from Broad City. You

heard it here first.

>> And you directed that.

>> Yeah. I mean, what the [ __ ]

>> What the [ __ ]

So, we do this thing where we talk to

people about our guests before they come

on. And I was really trying to think

about who I wanted to talk to. And what

organically came up for me was Kim

Lesing and Kate Arend, the producers,

uh, co-heads of Paperkite have worked

together for 10 plus years. They are

millennials and they started when Brad

City was, I think Kate's second or third

day was we were doing notes on like

episode two of Brad City. So I asked

them what they would want to know from

you and from a workplace perspective.

They were curious how did you to

keep your relationship your actual

intimate friendship healthy while you

were working together? And like as

you've gone on to work on other things

like what what how do you keep your

workplace healthy knowing what you know

now? And how did you do it then too?

What do you how do you like to work and

and what do you bring into your work to

keep it healthy?

>> As incredible as it was to make Broad

City, it was like we would like always

make sure to have a little time up top

to connect and catch up. LOL catch up

from 12 hours ago or whatever it was.

But like um you know, but like it just

it feels like so um I don't know, so

human to now have dinner and just be

lately we have been like crying so much.

It's been so it's so like juicy and

delicious and nutritious and sweet, but

at the time it was very much slotted in

to catch up and and things would always

make their way into the comedy,

>> which is cool, but it's not the same as

it being its own just for the sake of

its own beauty, you know?

>> And I think we knew that the catching

up,

>> it was like the catching up was

essential for the thing.

>> Like we knew that like it's so derived

from us. So like we had to kind of like

catch up and be like, "Okay, that's a

write that down for this thing." What

helped you during those times? Like what

was the stuff you like did you pick your

battles? Did you

>> Well, I think like something also was

like I'm thinking about it too cuz like

there was tension like rise and release

tension constantly and I think like a

lot of it was like boundaries and space

and being like see you later and like

taking the space.

>> Well, we didn't like hang out. I think

when we were doing it, we weren't like I

we would see you on Monday. We weren't

like as friends anymore.

>> Friends during Broad City. We couldn't.

>> Yeah. So, it's almost like you had to

put that a little bit aside just like

not like not let it atrophy but not give

it a lot of oxygen while you were doing

the show.

>> Yeah. It was very like after school

club, you know what I mean? In that it's

like this thing of like slotting in 45

minutes to talk before we focus. It's

like it wasn't it is so like it feels so

beautiful now to like just not have a a

a task at hand you know um

>> but during that time even though we

weren't on the weekends I would be like

you know if something was happening I'd

be like I'm going on a date like what am

I what do I wear it wasn't like don't

speak to me it was just like

>> after truly like 12 14 hours of Monday

through Friday we were like let's not do

dinner Who who did you go on the date

with and what did you wear?

>> Well, I do I honestly will remember I

remember like this is post Brad City. I

saw you the the day before I met Jody.

>> Oh my god.

>> And I was like telling you what I'm

going to wear.

>> Your beautiful wife Jody

>> and like Alana tell us that story. You

were going on a date with

>> We were in LA and you were staying at

Liz's house and I was like I'm going on

a date. By going on a date it was like

so deep co of she was like coming over

to my house to the patio and I was like

I think I'm just going to wear like I

know what I wore. I was like, I'm just

going to wear this sweater and like

black. I don't know. Like we were still

doing that and you were like, "Yeah,

like don't do too much." You know,

totally. What you wear on a date is

really important because it's it says a

lot. I'm excited. I'm not excited. I

don't care. I want to have sex. I don't

want Like there's a ton of things

happening.

>> Yeah.

>> And it worked because you bagged you

bagged that babe.

>> Yep. You have a beautiful bagged that

babe. That babe was obsessed.

And y'all are so beautiful and romantic.

Like you're such a beautiful couple. Oh

my god. So like also hot.

>> Hot. Hot as [ __ ]

>> Beautiful. And and both of you have had

a very busy 10 years. You become a mom.

Both of you have gotten married. Like

you both done a ton of different

projects that you're writing, creating.

Like there's so much that's happened.

And I guess I was curious like like

Alana, motherhood is a big uh creative

um

>> uh center in a lot of your work. It it's

you talk about it a lot on stage. You

made a movie about it. Babes, you have

this way in which you're like peeling

that onion a lot. And what's what's it

brought? How is it in how it is how has

it expanded you and your work?

>> It just has organized everything for me

appropriately. things are just like in

in their right place now like in my in

my heart and it's been so creative and

work also like um is work. It's not uh a

and it's a creative context but it's not

like how I figure out who I am. It's a

part of who I am.

>> Yeah. I just feel correctly organized.

>> That's very cool. AB, what about the

past

>> That's very cool.

>> What about you, AB? past 10 years with

all the different projects that you're

working on and worked on, what how has

that like changed your creative because

I mean I'm curious about you as a fine

artist too. I mean you're like you're

>> you come from a a fine art world like

people don't know people who for people

who don't know what in what way do you

express yourself that way

>> and is it always changing

>> that that much anymore?

>> You're good at drawing girl. I I thank

you.

>> Do you want me to say it?

>> I did. I went to art school. You went to

art school?

>> I went to art school and I like I I'm a

a big like goal of mine would be to do

to get back into painting and do have

like a show.

>> What do you like about painting?

>> I think I'm in my head a lot, which I

think is something that we really

bonded over.

>> Yeah.

>> Uh and it's very meditative for me. Like

I've painted two and a half paintings in

the past two years.

>> You should say you're the painter that

makes one painter a year and then

everybody comes and watches you finish

it. That's what a guy would do.

>> I know. No, I'm dying to do it. Like it

I think it's just like

>> he'd be like it's like so cool that I

only

do two and a half.

>> Yeah.

>> And and everyone be like, he's a genius.

>> Yeah. A withholding genius.

>> You're right.

>> Yes.

>> God, he's genius.

>> Takes me a whole year to do it.

>> Exactly. And can I ask you about

Prelude?

>> Yeah.

>> Can you talk about

>> Oh my god. Because Yes. I forgot I told

you all about I mean, you did the thing.

>> I did the thing. Do you want to talk

about it a little bit?

>> Yeah. We're in the thick of it right

now. Okay. So, Prelude is this

fellowship program I created um with

Mika Tenant who's like my partner and

it's an eight-month program where

there's 10 fellows that we select and

it's early early career storytellers.

And so there's 10. We set them up with

mentors and there's ongoing programming

with they have mentorship every month.

We have programming every month that I

run the programming every month. I have

people come in and and talk where I ask

them questions. Amy kicked kicked it off

which was like they still talk about

that. They still like cannot believe

that you came

>> of course. And uh so I'm realizing that

like for me like the success is that

they have confidence in themselves. And

that's that's like that's like the best

that we can like that would be like my

goal. They all leave feeling like they

have confidence and that they have they

know that like someone believes in them

which like truly just to go back full

circle which is like what you did for us

like and I said this to you on the day

I'm going to cry again when I had you

like that you believing in us and and

what we were doing like I think is is

what like has fueled us to do everything

we've done since and I'm like if I could

do that for them that is

>> that is so Cool. Awesome.

>> It's And it really does feel kind of

like the I know. Oh, crying again.

Everybody who's listening crying again.

And um I just want to ask about Good

Night and Good Luck because Alana, it's

very exciting. Like a Broadway debut is

it's such a singular goal. Did you have

it? Did you ever have that goal?

>> Um

>> did you want to be on Broadway?

>> Like uh

>> I am I am I am accentuating the way I

know comedians. A bunch of comedians.

supposed to be Broadway.

>> Talking about Broadway. Um, it wasn't

really in my like I I didn't think about

it as especially since I had a child.

It's so timeconuming like

>> and and since I've like kind of got my

standup and touring like now I like get

it how to do it how I do it like so so

Broadway like you're so like in someone

else's control I just hadn't thought

about it. Um, it was it was such an

incredible experience. You know, it

reminds me of Broad City and then also

before that the early days of comedy,

you're just seeing the same people night

after night after night. Um, George

Clooney was the co-writer and star of

>> How was how was our marriage?

>> An angel.

>> An angel.

>> He is an angel. He is my hero. He is my

hero from like the personal human being

to the public figure. He is. Oh my gosh,

it was such a such a privilege to

perform his writing.

>> And you know, AB, we we we don't have to

get into it, but you had a beautiful

relationship in um League of Their Own.

What was the best takeaway of that show?

>> I was just talking to Darcy about it.

>> I know. The great Darcy

>> Carden, the most kissable.

>> I know. And just so

>> it was sense.

>> She was kissable.

It's so funny because I was like cuz I

kissed Paul so much on Brad City and

then I was like I guess I'm going to

kiss another one of my really

>> listen we kiss our friends

>> but it also I found like

>> I don't know like

>> I don't know I think I'll do that

forever of like you're I'm in love with

my friends and like there's already that

chemistry there. Um, but

I guess in the middle in the middle of

Broad City is when I was like, "Oh, wow.

I think I like women too." Um, which was

like obviously Lana was like very much

there for me during that course.

>> And then I was like like everything

else, I want to put that in the show,

>> right?

>> And that was very much in the show with

Clea who Yeah. Uh, like that was so fun

and I was so happy that that lined up to

get to have that on Broad City. It was

like truly us like getting to explore

what was happening to me, was happening

with Abby and like differently but the

same which was which was incredible to

be able to do that. And then on League

like I loved making that show. It was it

was very hard in a lot of different

ways. It was a period show. It was like

baseball. It was the inner workings of

Amazon is not Comedy Central. that was

there was a lot more money and at the

end of the day I was like I'm writing

this ensemble and everybody like it is

just a bigger sort of like friend group

and so I was like that like to expand

that into like a group was like

incredible and then to get to write this

love story

>> with Darcy was like it was a dream we

really responded to that relationship

and that story. Yeah, it's been a really

cool uh it's kind of like on the like on

the street kind of thing. I'm like I

know what which one you're gonna say

based on what you look like.

>> And having made comedy for so long, what

do you what's your relationship to

comedy now? What do you watch,

read, go to? Like how do you make

yourself laugh right now? What's making

you laugh? Who's making you laugh? Like

what's the what's the place when the

world is getting really intense that you

like where do you escape?

>> I have a hard time.

>> Yeah.

>> Like I and so I have two things. Uh but

I like I I don't I have a hard time

finding them. So I'm very interested.

Okay. So I just saw

>> this just I just last week I saw Capri

Lance's new show.

>> Oh wow. At the Bell House. I mean,

>> oh, she's so

>> I haven't laughed that much

>> uh in a in a long time.

>> Oh, so live Kant recommend.

>> She's on tour, I think, right? Starting

now. And then the show I'm watching that

I'm obsessed with that like Brooke told

me about.

>> Yeah. Broo Posh who instrumental in in

the early Brad City.

>> Um, Big Boys.

>> Big Boys. No name. Okay, hold on. It's

Googling right now.

>> So good. It's on Hulu. It's from the UK.

>> Okay. It's so and it's like the mix of

like it's so funny and really heart like

there's heart. It's like it got me.

>> Okay. So, it's a it's a sitcom.

>> Yeah.

>> Two boys from very different ends of the

spectrum of masculinity become best

friends at Brent University. Freshers

week in their first year at university.

They explore, experiment, and try to

discover themselves.

>> Yeah. I never read the description.

That's what it is.

>> All right. And um Alana, what are you

listening to? How do you check out or

laugh or

>> I've been really It's like I I I want to

see Kate's show. I really love like what

my friends are making like hacks. I've

been I still have to catch up on season

4 but

>> that's been really killing me in like a

good way where I'm just like this is so

good and so funny. I'm like living. I'm

dying. You know what I mean? And also

the like the last time I left so hard

was at Oh Mary.

>> Oh my god.

>> I just I just died. I'm like starting to

get into like old movies though. Um,

>> I just watched Prince of Tides.

>> Okay. Not Barbara.

>> David like David like wants to watch all

of Barbara's Stysan stuff cuz we have

like um biographies of little for a

little kid books and we're like looking

at Barbara and reading her life story

and we're like let's just watch the

catalog

>> and she's so stunning.

>> Sweet man. J nails and Prince of Tides.

>> She directed that. She directed it and

Nick Noly

>> like the gorgeous and to see first of

all she's so hot and beautiful

>> and I'm like looking up in Wikipedia and

doing the math she's like 53

>> in it

>> and she directed herself and it's like

yeah I'm [ __ ] gorgeous and so Jewish

looking psychiatrist

would she say prince of toys

>> would it be toys she would

>> it's just like get it [ __ ] like [ __ ]

and get it.

>> She has a bio that just came out,

autobiography and her and you should

hear her do the

>> the book I heard was the audio book.

>> She's incredible.

>> Barbara,

>> we know you're watching. Yeah. And

listen, Barbara, please come. Please,

>> dude.

>> That would be a dream. Such a good

guest.

>> Barbara, uh, when Tina and I did, um,

the movie Sisters,

>> her husband, James Brolan, played our

dad,

>> and my parents visited the set one day,

and my mom was like, I wonder if Barbara

Stryand's ever going to And I was like,

"Mom, Barbara's not going to come visit,

you know, on Long Island, the set of

Sisters. Her husband is an actress." And

she did. And it was the day my mother

was there.

>> Yes, dude.

>> Wow.

>> She came to visit, you know, just came

to drop by to see her, gorgeous, loving

husband, James. And my mom was like, "I

told you." And I was like, "This doesn't

happen all the time. Don't get used to

this."

>> Did they have a moment?

>> Um, they did. I mean, they had like a

little hello. who was lovely and very

very lovely to us and you're right we

don't talk we Barbara when you come on

let's talk about your the things you've

directed I want to talk to you just as a

director

>> like truly it was so cool and you know

learning like how to light yourself as a

woman in your 40s and your 50s and your

60s just be like

>> just like make it soft just like feel

she is like

>> irresistible we were just like she is so

hot I I had a broad city moment the

other day that I was that was it felt

very broad city. Speaking of lighting

yourself, as I was shooting something

and um I was looking at the monitor and

I said, "Can I just take a peek to see

where you are at with lighting?" And the

um

young director of the piece said, "Um,

oh, don't worry, you look great." And I

and I was like, "Can I give you a little

feedback?"

I think when women, especially my age,

ask for the monitor,

saying, "Don't worry, you look great,"

is not helpful. Like it's not it's not

like we're being vain or insecure or

like we're just like trying to tweak

just what like we would our voice or

performance. Like we kind of we have a

sense of like how we're going to feel

comfortable and how we want to come

across. Like lighting is a big deal. I

don't think he understands this person

understands. I think he's actually

>> trying to make me feel better.

>> I totally get it but it's just like lol

bro. Lol, bro. I mean, OMG, lol, bro.

>> And then a little

>> Did you get to see?

>> Huh? Did you get to see?

>> All you do is you go like this.

>> Yeah. I mean, it's always it's always

and this is very broad city. always like

how much in the moment do you want to

like correct

and how much do you want to just like

you know it it is I mean I think what

what we're talking about today is the

reason why people love the show is they

feel like there's like people looking

out for each other sticking up for each

other taking care of each other there's

a community in the show there's like a

vibe and then what that does it allows

you to do that for yourself like that's

and then you become your own advocate

for yourself that's what the characters

did right

>> I had a broad city moment on Saturday,

too. I don't know if it has a big

culmination like this, but I went to a

premiere and I went alone,

>> okay? Which is wild.

>> And then I went to the party after. And

I was like, I'm going to smoo and I'll

know. And I and I knew someone and I was

like, "Okay, we're we're eating. We get

a bite." And then we're going up to the

bar. I was like, "Do you want to get

let's get a drink?" And we go up to get

a drink and they were like, "Um, they

were like, "You know what? I don't want

to hold the martini. I have to pee. I'm

gonna go pee. And I was like, "All

right, well, what do you want? I'll get

it." And I get the drink and I I was

like, "Oh, look at me at this this

premiere. I get the two martinis." And

then they never came back.

Like, so I truly was like I was like

standing with two dirty martinis and I

was like and I was like looking like a

people would come up to me and then I I

told Jod later I was like, "Oh god."

Like people would come up to me that I

knew and then people come up to me that

love Broad City. Me holding the two

Martinez and I was like I'm for the I'm

[ __ ] Abby. I'm like [ __ ] Abby. And

I was wearing a thing where like I kind

of had to keep adjusting it. Finally I

was like this one looks better. And I

was like started drinking. I was like I

abandoned and then

>> Yeah. How many minutes would you say

that you were double fisting martinis?

>> I would say too many.

>> Give me a number.

>> I would probably say 20.

>> Yo. Okay. Well, I was like, she's going

to come back here and what am I? And

then I was like, this is good martini.

They made it like they made I didn't pay

for it, but I was like, Abby, like it

was they made it for me. What am I going

to am I going to waste a martini? And

then I was

>> watching me and I don't want them to

think that I'm like I abandoned it. And

then I was like, I'm leaving.

>> In the spirit of like self-improvement,

if it was 20 this time, how many minutes

will you give it next time? You know,

there's no world in which I'm getting

the drink when someone goes to the

bathroom next time.

>> I think I'd be like, "That's a good

correction.

>> I'll see you when you get back. I'm

gonna get myself a drink."

>> And Alana, have you had an Alana moment

recently? Is there something that

happens where you're like, "Oh, this is

an Alana moment."

>> I have one that I like can't say that

I'll tell you after.

>> You can

naughty naughty.

>> Have you had an Abby moment? Us filling

it in might be more fun. Kind of like

what you were talking about with your

show. like us us filling in what your

moment is with dot dot dot babe.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Let's leave it at that.

>> Okay. Well, dot dot dot it is.

>> I love you, too. Thank you so much for

doing this. I love talking about the

show. I love talking about what's next.

>> You always were. You always will be. Not

from not Oh, Amy Puller. She's an icon.

No. From the [ __ ] in the flesh,

delicious forever eight-year-old person

that you are, mother that you have

always been to us. Big sister, just

friend. You're just incredible. We're so

grateful.

>> Thank you for letting this 8-year-old be

your producer.

>> She did it.

>> She did good.

>> Thank you guys.

>> Thank you, Abby and Alana. Thank you for

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great to talk to you and it's just a

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